Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIII

[E-Train]

Zuccarello to the Sharks who have the Panthers 2nd from the Hoffman trade. Unless the Panthers go 25-10 again in their last 35 games and they barely miss the playoffs again this season, that 2nd will be a high 2nd.

Labanc better be coming with that 2nd.

 

[Ola]

Do your usage stats take into account that the first/last 10 seconds of a shift are often not representative of the actual usage?

I know it sucks, but maybe it’s time to realize that you can’t be the smartest guy in the room, even a hockey chat room, by taking short cuts, playing a little EA sports and checking a graph — either?

Move on and try to find another hobby, but it’s tough for you guys when the digital world have beaten out the extremely isolated fanzine based obscure subsections of society. There is competition everywhere...

I don’t quote the Bible that often but “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find!”

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No way a rental Zuuc, even if Rangers retain and takeTalbot, is worth that. That 1st round pick can easily be a top ten pick. If Edmonton trade this pick it has to be for a player at least a couple of years younger and with term.

It's Chiarelli

 

[Ola]

It's Chiarelli

What about Zucc and Pionk?

Zucc 50%
Pionk

for

Talbot
Pulju
EDM 1st in 19’

 

[NYRFANMANI]

We're aiming at an unprotected pick from Colorado for Hayes?

 

[Waivers]

We really should not be dealing from a position of weakness. Our defense has looked the worst it has ever looked in the last ~13 years, and I believe Pionk is more valuable to the Rangers than he is in a trade. Our blueline, even with the “plethora” of assets in the somewhat near future (I say plethora because we still need more defensive assets), are not guaranteed to be serviceable in the NHL. Plus I am not over the moon about Pool Party.

 

[Lion Hound]

Can anyone come up with a comparable trade to a potential Zucc deal?

30yr old, Smaller winger, PP guy, 50-60pt producer, rental

Often see a Hayes deal compared to Hanzal, with a greater expectation as Hayes is younger and maybe all around the better player.

Trying to think of one that can be used to compare a Zucc deal?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Can anyone come up with a comparable trade to a potential Zucc deal?

30yr old, Smaller winger, PP guy, 50-60pt producer, rental

Often see a Hayes deal compared to Hanzal, with a greater expectation as Hayes is younger and maybe all around the better player.

Trying to think of one that can be used to compare a Zucchini deal?

The middle of the Nash return and the Grabner return. Either a 1st and a Rykov-type prospect or a better prospect (Addison?) and a 2nd.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Can anyone come up with a comparable trade to a potential Zucc deal?

30yr old, Smaller winger, PP guy, 50-60pt producer, rental

Often see a Hayes deal compared to Hanzal, with a greater expectation as Hayes is younger and maybe all around the better player.

Trying to think of one that can be used to compare a Zucchini deal?

TJ Oshie is the one that comes to mind. Hudler to a lesser degree.

Jiri Hudler (2nd + 4th)
Martin Hanzal (1st + 2nd + Downing)*
TJ Oshie (Brouwer, Copley, 3rd)

Trade also included a 4th and Ryan White together with Hanzal

 

[Fitzy]

Can anyone come up with a comparable trade to a potential Zucc deal?

30yr old, Smaller winger, PP guy, 50-60pt producer, rental

Often see a Hayes deal compared to Hanzal, with a greater expectation as Hayes is younger and maybe all around the better player.

Trying to think of one that can be used to compare a Zucchini deal?

Erat for Forsberg.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Erat for Forsberg.

We already have the next Forsberg though

 

[Lion Hound]

Erat for Forsberg.

Good comparison as a player. I believe Erat had another year or two on his deal at the time of that trade though.

 

[Tawnos]

We're aiming at an unprotected pick from Colorado for Hayes?

Only those of us who enjoy setting ourselves up for disappointment.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Only those of us who enjoy setting ourselves up for disappointment.

So you expect us to end up with like one pick in the top 20, looking to trade further in maybe?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

TJ Oshie is the one that comes to mind. Hudler to a lesser degree.

Jiri Hudler (2nd + 4th)
Martin Hanzal (1st + 2nd + Downing)*
TJ Oshie (Brouwer, Copley, 3rd)

Trade also included a 4th and Ryan White together with Hanzal

That Oshie trade is low key an all time rip off

 

[Tawnos]

So you expect us to end up with like one pick in the top 20, looking to trade further in maybe?

Unless Colorado gets in an makes it to the WCF, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

 

[The don godfather]

Bruins fan here . I really like how you guys picked up ryan strome and feel he's gonna pick it up and he's still relatively young 25 yrs old. Any players or prospects from Bruins would interest you ?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Unless Colorado gets in an makes it to the WCF, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

I secretly still hope Colorado wins the Cup and Ottawa's pick wins the lottery just to see something unique.

 

[Webster]

No way a rental Zuuc, even if Rangers retain and takeTalbot, is worth that. That 1st round pick can easily be a top ten pick. If Edmonton trade this pick it has to be for a player at least a couple of years younger and with term.

Oilers are desperate, currently 3 pts out of a playoff spot. And McDavid has been whining in the media that he wants to leave if things don't get better soon. They need scoring.

But rumors are flying on twitter now about a Zucc deal, that several teams have signed up. Almost sounds like a bidding war coming. Then a 1st should be within reach, perhaps even more.

 

[BringBackLibertys]

I actually never ignored a user on here before, I had to learn how just now, thanks for reminding me guys.

 

[DanielBrassard]

That is....incorrect.

Care to explain how?

Could take it to the advanced stats thread if it's more appropriate

 

[DutchShamrock]

Oilers are desperate, currently 3 pts out of a playoff spot. And McDavid has been whining in the media that he wants to leave if things don't get better soon. They need scoring.

That's not what he said at all. He said that they can turn it around and anyone that doesn't want to be there can leave.

 

[Lion Hound]

Bruins fan here . I really like how you guys picked up ryan strome and feel he's gonna pick it up and he's still relatively young 25 yrs old. Any players or prospects from Bruins would interest you ?

He's been pretty good since the trade and much or literally all of what he is doing is from a 3rd or 4th line role. He's adapted and in doing so has turned into a good story.

Assuming Jake Debrusk would be off the table from the B's, one player that I wanted in last years draft was Jacob Lauko. Kind of shocked he fell to the 3rd round. Was pissed that NYR had so many picks and passed him up. Would be interested in him as a start.

 

[NYR Viper]

Jost + COL 1st ‘19 (top-10 protected, rolls over to automatic 2020 1st) + Conditional 2020 1st (if Hayes resigns, if COL 1st ‘19 is top-10 and Hayes re-signs, this pick becomes COL 1st 2021) + Meloche for Hayes + Vesey

 

[Vitto79]

We're aiming at an unprotected pick from Colorado for Hayes?

Yea unprotected. They would barely miss IMO so wouldn’t win the lottery