Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXI

[TheDirtyH]

Brooks is crapping on the players to take less. Thing is, they take less. Buch wanted a long term deal but was forced to sign a short deal. Anyone wanna bet that JT Miller, Kevin Hayes, Zucc and co haven’t been in that situation before?

Had we signed Buch to a long term deal he would have been much more valuable. NMC/NTC aren’t allowed for RFA years.

The question that always is asked in NY by Gorton and Slats was, have they earned it? Kreider, Staal, Smith and Girardi all had “earned” their contracts. Have that helped us?

The GM must make these calls. It’s not charity.

And for all the success we had for 4 years there a decade ago, it's ultimately what kept that window very brief and just below what was needed to win it all.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Its actually about 22% of the cap but yeah, still not good.

The Kreider contract is the most unforgivable shit that the FO has done. This is a player they 10000% should have monetized and thanked for his services. This team was playing well when he was extended and I realize that they had ripped apart the room, but they had already squeezed the best hockey they were going to get out of the player and its not like they were at contender status where you keep the band together while you can win and worry about the bad years later.

It was a dumb move even before COVID happened and they won the lottery.

The Kreider contract looked bad on the day it was signed, long before we won the draft lottery and added Lafrenière.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

05-06 Pitt has Lemieux, Recchi, Gonchar, Palffy, Leclair...

I don't think we spent all this time rebuilding to only compete for a couple seasons.

No cap then though right?

 

[TheDirtyH]

I'm fairly certain that the Rangers will have to trade Lindgren next year to make any of this work. Which is a bummer.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No cap then though right?

That was the first year of the salary cap

 

[Riche16]

Its actually about 22% of the cap but yeah, still not good.

The Kreider contract is the most unforgivable shit that the FO has done. This is a player they 10000% should have monetized and thanked for his services. This team was playing well when he was extended and I realize that they had ripped apart the room, but they had already squeezed the best hockey they were going to get out of the player and its not like they were at contender status where you keep the band together while you can win and worry about the bad years later.

It was a dumb move even before COVID happened and they won the lottery.

I've posted something exactly like this at least a few times since the contract was signed... you're more colorful in your wording tho.

 

[duhmetreE]

The Kreider contract looked bad on the day it was signed, long before we won the draft lottery and added Lafrenière.

7 years was too much but the AAV was fine, borderline under market

 

[Raspewtin]

Its actually about 22% of the cap but yeah, still not good.

The Kreider contract is the most unforgivable shit that the FO has done. This is a player they 10000% should have monetized and thanked for his services. This team was playing well when he was extended and I realize that they had ripped apart the room, but they had already squeezed the best hockey they were going to get out of the player and its not like they were at contender status where you keep the band together while you can win and worry about the bad years later.

It was a dumb move even before COVID happened and they won the lottery.

finding out we could've gotten a 1st and a ROTY candidate for him too and his f***ing atrocious play this year really added to this kick in the nuts lol

 

[Shesterkybomb]

This team has missed the playoffs for the last 4 years. I don’t think winning a Cup in the next 2 years is realistic.

The team has changed a lot in 4 years and will continue to change over the next year no?

 

[Off Sides]

Has it been confirmed that the cap is going to increase by 1 million the next 4 years? If that's the case, the Rangers get 2 million increase next year and 4 million increase the year after. That's a significant amount of money that we are getting in the offseason we will need it most.

It depends on revenue yet the league is projecting for the 2022/23 season the cap ceiling could be 82.5M

From there theoretically it will increase by 1M per season until the 50/50 balance between the players and league is restored as long as revenue comes in above a certain threshold (I think 4.8 Billion)

 

[duhmetreE]

finding out we could've gotten a 1st and a ROTY candidate for him too and his f***ing atrocious play this year really added to this kick in the nuts lol

who? that's news to me.

 

[Riche16]

NYR missed the playoffs in 1993.

They also won the Pres Trophy in 1992... it was largely considered ridiculous that they didn't even MAKE the playoffs in 1993

Point being they were a stacked team that may or may not have needed some winning players and some tuffness brought in.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

That was the first year of the salary cap

Its still different now, rfa players are getting the big money, back then you never got big money until ufa. If the system was still the same toronto would have about 20 mill in cap space.

 

[Fitzy]

who? that's news to me.

Jason Robertson I think?

 

[McRanger92]

Blais skates like rookie Kakko. He’s not an awful skater, it’s just not a strength. His game isn’t predicated on being a strong skater either; that’s one of the reasons he has potential. He’s learned(learning) to play to his strengths, which are tenacity, being a disruptive guy who creates space, a strong shot with a good release he doesn’t need time to get off. He acquitted himself well every time he had opportunities with talent in St. Louis. I’ve been watching him pretty keenly since their SC run. Always felt he’d be a great bottom six addition. I definitely think he has more than enough talent to be a third liner on his own merit and may well end up being a fit across from Panarin. There’s several candidates for that spot. He paced for 17 goals and 34 points last year. A change of situation could certainly see him succeed in a third line role.

Underwhelming return on Buchnevich aside, i am excited to see Blais/Goodrow/Reaves create some chaos in front of the net this year. They are all big guys who will make life difficult for opposing defenseman. Scoring dirty goals has not been a strength of this team since the early AV days

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Its still different now, rfa players are getting the big money, back then you never got big money until ufa. If the system was still the same toronto would have about 20 mill in cap space.

Well, yeah. Because GMs needed 15 years to figure out that a player's prime isn't age 33

 

[I Eat Crow]

Spidey sense tingling that nothing is going to happen today.

Nothing happens or @Tob deletes my account.

 

[Tob]

Nothing happens or @Tob deletes my account.

I've deleted a ton of my accounts but never one made in 2007. This will be a new experience for me.

 

[haohmaru]

I've deleted a ton of my accounts but never one made in 2007. This will be a new experience for me.

Nothing happens or I delete @Tob

 

[Tob]

Nothing happens or I delete @Tob

Greater men than you have tried and failed. Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 mods have considered it to some extent at various points.

 

[bobbop]

I think the chances of Trouba finishing contract in New York are extremely high.

 

[Bruner4329]

NYR missed the playoffs in 1993.

Wow big difference. You should know better. The 1992 team finished first in the Patrick Division with 105 points and with better goaltending in the Pitt series could easily have advanced to the conference finals if not further. They also made the playoffs the prior 3 seasons. This team has done squat and has a bunch of question marks whereas the 1992 team had a solid nucleus and solid leadership with both a veteran and youth presence. Not even close.

 

[haohmaru]

Greater men than you have tried and failed. Pretty sure 4 out of the 5 mods have considered it to some extent at various points.

Haohmaru, baby.

 

[haohmaru]

I think the chances of Trouba finishing contract in New York are extremely high.

Let's see if he gets the "C", si'? Agreed if he does.

 

[DudMan28]

I think the chances of Trouba finishing contract in New York are extremely high.

I think with a competent partner he will be a good player for the duration. There was an article that showed when he played with Morrissey he played well. Part of it was chemistry as they played together for 3 years, and part of it was they were both pretty good. As our left side continues to grow and he meshes with a partner, I think he'll get closer to what he used to be.

I don't think he'll ever be worth the $8M, but he'll be more tolerable if he's playing like a bonafide top-4 guy.

Article for those interested - By the numbers: Why Jacob Trouba and Josh Morrissey have struggled without each other