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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

Mandar said:
what makes him a good coach? Not trying to criticize, but because he has regular season wins and less losses? Because his team shoots from everywhere? Lindy Ruff has a lot of wins and losses....I dont consider him a good coach.

Or is it because he has a system that makes his players better and crank it up even more in the playoffs (cause thats what I want...._ )
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I think he's a good coach who pushes his players to work together and perform as a team, unlike the bullshit we see with the Rangers

I think part of the reason tehy haven't won a cup is bad luck, some of it is talent, and yeah some of it is a system that suppresses the talent they have a bit in order to play that style.
 
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Have: All the hard to find stuff already (All-situations 1C, all-situations 2C, 1D + PPQB, top 10 goalie, 2 bona fide 1st liners on any team, emerging young PF type, matchup D-pair with size and skating ability)

Need: 1LD, middle 6 C for depth/competition, bottom pair PMD, systems that fit the personnel in all 3 zones,

They're honestly not all that far off. This is easily a 100 point team next year with the right coach and buy in.
 
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Mandar said:
what makes him a good coach? Not trying to criticize, but because he has regular season wins and less losses? Because his team shoots from everywhere? Lindy Ruff has a lot of wins and losses....I dont consider him a good coach.

Or is it because he has a system that makes his players better and crank it up even more in the playoffs (cause thats what I want...._ )
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Rod is a good coach who has instilled many good habits of his players in Carolina.

His lack of playoff success can largely be attributed to their overall lack of quality talent. The Rangers until this season (and possibly even including this season) have had a better 1C (Zib and or Miller is at least equal to Aho), 1W (Panarin over Svech, hell the last few years you could argue Kreider over him too), 1D (Fox is better than everyone on their roster, no matter how good Slavin is defensively), and 1G (Shesty is miles better than what they’ve trotted out the last few seasons) than Carolina. I view him as Torts without the Tampa ‘03 team playing his system. As far as potential “retreads” go, another bad playoff showing from Carolina, Rod shakes free, he’s my top choice.
 
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Rod runs his team into the ground every season playing like it's the playoffs all 82 games. that's why they've lost to an inferior team in the playoffs the last 3 seasons. it did look like he might've adjusted that this year though.
 
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zlev said:
Rod runs his team into the ground every season playing like it's the playoffs all 82 games. that's why they've lost to an inferior team in the playoffs the last 3 seasons. it did look like he might've adjusted that this year though.
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To be fair, they played a lot more East-West last year and they still lost.

I just don't think they have the horses. They have a couple of names, but their roster really isn't good under scrutiny. Similar to the Rangers in that regard.
 
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NYR Viper said:
Holding on to Mika makes the most sense. He plays RW or center, two positions the team is actually pretty shallow in for now. Most NHL teams prefer to start a season with 5 centers on the NHL roster at minimum so with Brodzinski and Zibanejad that would likely mean they’ll have 6 which is ideal. 7 if they qualify and keep Parsinnen.

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It’s possible the team values a certain RW more than the centers that are available which could push Zibanejad down to 3C at 5v5.

I do think Drury makes a trade for a young, skilled forward
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I also don’t think that Zibanejad will be moved this offseason (I’m also counting on a bit of renaissance season from him) and having him as an option of either at C or RW is a plus. Unlikely you I don’t expect Panarin being moved either. Perreault will spend first half of the season in Hartford but I wonder if the decision making in the offseason will somewhat be influenced by expectations of him joining varsity at some point during the season. The Rangers will be bringing a forward which is priority #2 after a must have LD, so I wonder what price range that forward will be but like you I’m leaning more toward it’s going to be a center who’s also capable to play wing.
 
Machinehead said:
To be fair, they played a lot more East-West last year and they still lost.

I just don't think they have the horses. They have a couple of names, but their roster really isn't good under scrutiny. Similar to the Rangers in that regard.
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yeah probably true. they finally had a high end offensive talent this year and they traded him away.
 
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zlev said:
yeah probably true. they finally had a high end offensive talent this year and they traded him away.
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I would have just played that out. The meta has overcorrected on "LOSING GUYS FOR NOTHING OMG!!"

The Metro is a dog show. Carolina only has to win two serious rounds to win the Cup. They gave up that chance for Logan Stankoven.
 
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Carolina has a Russian goalie weakness, suspect goaltending themselves and are missing one more offensive player to put them over the top.

Have no clue why they moved Necas
 
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duhmetreE said:
Carolina has a Russian goalie weakness, suspect goaltending themselves and are missing one more offensive player to put them over the top.

Have no clue why they moved Necas
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They keep trading for discontented pending free agents thinking they're just gonna fall head over heels for Raleigh, North Carolina.

They did it with Adam Fox.
 
Carolina's best team was the one they had last year. That roster was legitimately good and they crushed off the rush as much as they did their "shoot from everywhere" BS. The NYR PP (when it was good) was an awful matchup for their super aggressive PK and Rod didn't really back off of it until they were 3 games in the hole. If you look at the teams that have knocked them out, they've been the ones that have roasted their PK which has generally been top 5 (if not #1) in the league.

They aren't nearly as good this year but sometimes matchups and timing are really all that matter. NJD and then one of WSH/MTL is about as easy a road as it gets. The Atlantic is a bloodbath so by the time they get there they may be getting a shell of an opponent that would normally wipe them. I wouldn't write them off because their road to the finals may be really, really light depending on how taxing the road for the ATL finalist is and even more so for who ever comes out of the West.

The west is wide open. Even the WC teams are interesting as f*** (StL being fire for the 2nd half of the season, Minnesota being healthy.)

Shame Dallas is as banged up as they are. Can still see them beating Colorado even with out Hesikanen and Robertson - Colorado's got a ton of red flags that no one seems to want to mention (they don't really score 5v5 and their defense after the top pair is shit.)
 
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Mandar said:
what makes him a good coach? Not trying to criticize, but because he has regular season wins and less losses? Because his team shoots from everywhere? Lindy Ruff has a lot of wins and losses....I dont consider him a good coach.

Or is it because he has a system that makes his players better and crank it up even more in the playoffs (cause thats what I want...._ )
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I like the way his teams hustle. I do think he gets a lot out of his players. I believe they have won at least 1 playoff series every season and often their losses came down to inferior goaltending. He beat the Devils pretty easily after they beat us. He got to the conference finals twice. Why do you think Rod is not a good coach? Regular season wins should not be totally discounted. The regular season is the time you establish your team or in our case this season establish that you are not a team.
 
Yeah, not sure the love affair with Svech. People here hate Kreider and yet want to trade assets for a worse version?
 
GAGLine said:
If the idea is to trade those players and tank next year, sure, give up the pick. But you know Drury has no plan to do that. He needs to save his job, and he won't do it by triggering a rebuild.
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This is 100 % true.
 
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