You wouldn't do it?!?
I mean Colorado wouldn't even consider it but yeah, I'd do that in a second.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVII What will Santa Gorton bring us?
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You wouldn't do it?!?
I mean Colorado wouldn't even consider it but yeah, I'd do that in a second.
Gardner McKay
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Carl Soderberg can't hold Hayes jockstrap ( I know what you're referencing). I also can't blame Boston on Hayes. Probably not a good fit.
I know people say this but I would literally do it, drive to NY, pick up Hayes and then shuttle his ass to Colorado for that deal. There is zero chance Colorado gives up the OTT first for anything short of Peitrangelo or Tarasenko (considering the Blues are looking at blowing things up). Hayes is Colorado 1st round pick material (with an add), not Ottawa 1st rounder material.
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She smiled and wished me the best of luck with my future endeavors.
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Just Hayes without the Rangers adding and without any extension in place or worked out?
I am guessing
-A teams 2019 1st (late round)
-fourth or fifth favorite prospect (I am thinking something like a Howden, Hajek or Lindgren from last years deadline, maybe that is their 3rd favorite?)
-A conditional pick (perhaps a 2020 3rd or 4th that turns to a 2nd should that team sign/extend Hayes)(I'd like to make that a conditional 1st/2nd but I think that is pushing it)
-And something(s) that team does not really want for next season (Spooner for example)
Gives the Rangers another chance at another possible Miller/Chytil level prospect, plus some prospect they like who's ceiling is likely limited but useful none the less and could surprise, the conditional gets better if that team like Hayes and he likes them enough to extend, and maybe they can move the next Spooner for something that seems to fit better if whoever that is does not fit.
I don't love it, but it's similar to the Nash trade and it has some extras in there that could come around favorably.
I am guessing
-A teams 2019 1st (late round)
-fourth or fifth favorite prospect (I am thinking something like a Howden, Hajek or Lindgren from last years deadline, maybe that is their 3rd favorite?)
-A conditional pick (perhaps a 2020 3rd or 4th that turns to a 2nd should that team sign/extend Hayes)(I'd like to make that a conditional 1st/2nd but I think that is pushing it)
-And something(s) that team does not really want for next season (Spooner for example)
Gives the Rangers another chance at another possible Miller/Chytil level prospect, plus some prospect they like who's ceiling is likely limited but useful none the less and could surprise, the conditional gets better if that team like Hayes and he likes them enough to extend, and maybe they can move the next Spooner for something that seems to fit better if whoever that is does not fit.
I don't love it, but it's similar to the Nash trade and it has some extras in there that could come around favorably.
I remember discussing this last year when people had finally come to grips that Vegas was for real. Obviously you need elite talent, but this isn’t the NBA. Support players are vital in the NHL, especially the playoffs. It’s a long grueling season and rarely do 1 or even 2 line teams accomplish much.
I think we’re in the early stages of the evolution of this “depth strategy”, and those caught with top heavy cap allocations will find it’s a difficult problem to solve. If this forces the window for the dynasty style team to close earlier, it opens it up for others to find a new way in. We’re in a prime position to capitalize on this potential trend.
Rangers will be playing the Yotes tomorrow who are playing the 3rd in 4th and on the tail of B2B's. Rangers will be playing their 3rd game in like 12 days.
Rangers have also yet to play a set of b2b's where their opponents weren't also doing the same.
Why couldn't we have had this kind of schedule when we were competing?
Rangers have also yet to play a set of b2b's where their opponents weren't also doing the same.
Why couldn't we have had this kind of schedule when we were competing?
GeorgeKaplan
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Turns out it’s the league who wants us in the dreaded middle
Well things turn around pretty quickly but it's insane how easy their schedule has been both in competition and rest days.
It gets pretty hellacious soon, but still.
I get the same feeling in my head reading RangerBoy posts that I got when I was painting my house for too long.
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RB would complain if he hit the powerball jackpot.
I agree. Though it could be a "protected", I guess but then what is the substitution? Their own first plus maybe their own next? No idea.
Under Bettman, no way to the Rangers get the top two picks. In fact, they are probably heading out of the top 5
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RB isn't wrong. I'm not sure where the 'pile on RB' sentiment has come from but the guy knows his shit and has been around for a long time adding serious value to these boards. Okay, so he has a different viewpoint than I, or others have, but this new game of attack RB has kind of run its course by now, no?
He wants this team to get out of the middle. I agree. Some of Gorton's decisions have been somewhat curious, namely Smith and Shattenkirk after trading Stepan. I get the feeling that some of that was not him but instead others within saying they could remain competitive and retool quickly. I thought he did a VERY good job at last years trade deadline. Guys like Spooner and Namestnikov were brought back for insulation and future trade chips. Hayes on a 1 year deal along with Zuccarello and a depth defenseman in McQuaid, all of whom should be moved this year.
I guess I like the approach of trying to accrue as many future assets as possible in lieu of just tanking and having crap pieces on the NHL roster (when no one would want them at the deadline as rentals). I am hopeful he will make the right decisions again with some selling in the next couple of months that will continue the course he started a couple of years ago.
He wants this team to get out of the middle. I agree. Some of Gorton's decisions have been somewhat curious, namely Smith and Shattenkirk after trading Stepan. I get the feeling that some of that was not him but instead others within saying they could remain competitive and retool quickly. I thought he did a VERY good job at last years trade deadline. Guys like Spooner and Namestnikov were brought back for insulation and future trade chips. Hayes on a 1 year deal along with Zuccarello and a depth defenseman in McQuaid, all of whom should be moved this year.
I guess I like the approach of trying to accrue as many future assets as possible in lieu of just tanking and having crap pieces on the NHL roster (when no one would want them at the deadline as rentals). I am hopeful he will make the right decisions again with some selling in the next couple of months that will continue the course he started a couple of years ago.
He was complaining that they don't suck enough and then turned around and said that this is basically a bottom 5 team.
Which one is it?
This team blows. A half decent team would be at the top of the division and challenging for the conference with the schedule they've had. Instead they're out of a playoff and in a tie for 10th from the bottom.
I remember last year they thought Nash was worth a 2nd at best...
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GeorgeKaplan
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The problem is that he refuses see nuance and can’t have a discussion when people show him the flaws in his logic
NYR Viper
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The recommendation would be to place him on ignore if you don't want to read his stuff.
It’s entirely too much fun, kind of like the whole can’t look away from a crash thing.
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