Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

[RangersFan1994]

It’s a shame Rangers did not select Matt Boldy instead of Kakko. Boldy is a beast.

 

[NYRKing]

It’s a shame Rangers did not select Matt Boldy instead of Kakko. Boldy is a beast.

At the time there was no question, but wow Boldy is so good.

Same with Laff Vs Jarvis. In terms of compete it’s night and day right now.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It’s a shame Rangers did not select Matt Boldy instead of Kakko. Boldy is a beast.

Kakko was a unanimous 2nd overall. It's like complaining that some team didn't draft Tom Brady in the first round in 2000.

 

[RGY]

In one way it is tough and sad to see Lindgren go and Vesey go (a 2nd time). Both hardworking players. But Lindgren’s play dipped substantially and you simply cannot trust his body holding up. It would have been worse than extending Girardi. Vesey fell out of favor and wasn’t getting the playing time, but the guy is a smart heady player who works hard, plays reliably, and can PK.

The return is very good imo. Have always like de Haan. Steady defenseman. Like adding the Finn as well.

Let’s see what drury does next

 

[bubba5]

It’s a shame Rangers did not select Matt Boldy instead of Kakko. Boldy is a beast.

The Rangers would have ruined his development too.

 

[noncents]

The players responsible for the stuff are still here. They have got to go. The insubordination has to be dealt with. They are not management. They don't pick the trainers. They don't pick the players. They don't try to get the GM fired. Their f***ing jobs is playing hockey. That's it. This is not the UN.

nah i think they've moved the right pieces so far

 

[eco's bones]

It’s a shame Rangers did not select Matt Boldy instead of Kakko. Boldy is a beast.

It shouldn't be that big of a surprise when you consider that they're 17/18 year olds that are being drafted. What you have then is a snapshot of a player playing against other 16/17/18/19 year olds and a hoped for projection of what they might become a few years down the road.

Take a 18 year old guitar whiz who's clearly better than anyone his age group around him but 5 years later some of his competition has caught up to him--maybe even surpassed him and maybe a couple of them were even complete novices. You can almost expect that that was going to happen and no one at all would be surprised.

 

[Vitto79]

Sounds like the Chad Ruewedahl getting traded too . Scratched in Hartford

 

[lakeshirts37]

Yes but that was some time ago. I think solid middle six is a more likely upside than legit #2C.

Trocheck is an ideal 2C.

Id argue Trocheck is a 3C on a contender. Last year was an outlier

I like Smith as a player, but trading him is an obvious move. He should fetch a decent haul.

if by decent haul you mean at most a late 2nd rounder then sure

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Kaliyev gotta show it during practice. Sometimes you gotta make the coach play you by being undeniable

There's no reason Brett Berard can do it and Arthur Kaliyev can't.

American players are preferred by Drury, which is why i don't understand him getting Kaliyev, Parsnipkakko, and Vaaaaaaak. He's gone all in on us players for the most part before this.

 

[bernmeister]

I dont get how Rangers management don't see this as a problem. Sad to say Kampf didn't sign and it's not like NYR depth on d is packed. That should say something. I hope Perreault doesn't sign for the sake of his career.


Its not like scouts are always right. Look how many passed on x player and boom they break out over the higher pick.

super early but Kampf is an interesting dark horse on paper -- decent size, rhs
howev, if wasn't gonna sign, dealing was prob smart

It shouldn't be that big of a surprise when you consider that they're 17/18 year olds that are being drafted. What you have then is a snapshot of a player playing against other 16/17/18/19 year olds and a hoped for projection of what they might become a few years down the road.

Take a 18 year old guitar whiz who's clearly better than anyone his age group around him but 5 years later some of his competition has caught up to him--maybe even surpassed him and maybe a couple of them were even complete novices. You can almost expect that that was going to happen and no one at all would be surprised.

thanks for bringing up such an apt parallel
your reward is a little slowhand

 

[noncents]

American players are preferred by Drury, which is why i don't understand him getting Kaliyev, Parsnipkakko, and Vaaaaaaak. He's gone all in on us players for the most part before this.

kaliyev is american..

 

[LokiDog]

kaliyev is american..

He grew up in NY, and is an American citizen, yes, but he was born in Uzbekistan. Not sure where that one falls on the Drury-nationalism chart.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Sounds like the Chad Ruewedahl getting traded too . Scratched in Hartford

I think it's because he was called up to the Rangers.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kakko was a unanimous 2nd overall. It's like complaining that some team didn't draft Tom Brady in the first round in 2000.

Jets had 4 1st rounders in 2000.

 

[SixGoalieSystem]

if by decent haul you mean at most a late 2nd rounder then sure

With retention, I think we could be looking at a small add to that, like a fourth or a fifth.

For what he is and for where the Rangers currently are, I'd consider that decent.

 

[eco's bones]

super early but Kampf is an interesting dark horse on paper -- decent size, rhs
howev, if wasn't gonna sign, dealing was prob smart


thanks for bringing up such an apt parallel
your reward is a little slowhand

thanks but FWIW I'm not a fan of Clapton's.

 

[duhmetreE]

So when Fox comes back we’re moving Schneider to his off side?

Maybe get a 3RHD at the deadline? Jokiharju?

 

[E-Train]

Id argue Trocheck is a 3C on a contender. Last year was an outlier

Even calling last season an outlier, he had 64 pts the year before. On what planet is that a 3C? Only on EA sports

 

[duhmetreE]

Tkachuk on LTIR. Panarin at 50%.

It’s an opportunity worth exploring. Have no clue what a return looks like

 

[noncents]

So when Fox comes back we’re moving Schneider to his off side?

Maybe get a 3RHD at the deadline? Jokiharju?

i think they like schneider on the right side. Dehaan can play left too no?

 

[Flan the incredible]

How about Smith to the Kings? Pretty sure they need scoring forwards and they have next to no cap space. Looking at their roster do they even have cap dumps to get someone more expensive?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Any idea where Smith is going?

I've been out of the loop for a while.

There are about 8 destinations. I'd say Washington if I were to put money on it.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Redd

I think it's because he was called up to the Rangers.

Allegedly he was not actually called up

So who knows

 

[McRanger92]

Panarin 50% retained to Florida for what?