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Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

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I know Drury usually doesn't work on weekends but today is a Wednesday. With Fox/Miller hurt last game, and Schneider banged up too, why didn't he place a claim on Dermott?
 
bernmeister said:
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called out for being total bs
also not in a tail spin as @NickyFotiu corrected


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The smart deal here is
Shesty, Tro, Othman + Jones
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Byfield, Clarke, Helenius + Dvorak

we can keep LaF or deal him to Canadian based team where he has mo value
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LOL not called out. Just debated between friends ☺️
 
leetch99 said:
Any kind of an injury is bad for our little fellow . The shoulder is important for hockey players ...especially a Dman ! Imagine puck retrieval with a bum shoulder ...imagine firing shots from the point ? Imagine even trying to hold/push guys off....
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Shoulder injury basically ended Barry Becks prime.
 
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kovazub94 said:
If Drury's existing plan was to move Lindgren, Kreider, Smith etc by TDL then yesterday's injuries should only put more support behind writing this season down & start setting selves up for 2025-2026 and beyond.

On the other hand if his primary directive (self imposed or pushed down from Dolan) is to make playoffs than who know what kind of additional steps to take or not would be required now (plan B). I'm hoping this is not the case but who knows.
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I get where you're coming from it's just that it would be just dumb at least on an organizational/player development level. If you're main mission is making a profit selling tickets for two playoff games---which is pretty much what happens if the team goes out in the first round after 4/5 games then I guess but......

Also we don't know how secure Drury feels and what he might try to save his job if he doesn't feel secure but IMO not selling and relying on hope can only hurt the team's future.
 
Do the injuries to Fox and Miller affect Lindgren being moved?

4 games to the deadline. Gotta hope neither is serious.

Also need to hope Lindgren gets through the next 3 or 4 games un fazed, so theres at least a chance their could be bidding on him.
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
Do the injuries to Fox and Miller affect Lindgren being moved?

4 games to the deadline. Gotta hope neither is serious.

Also need to hope Lindgren gets through the next 3 or 4 games un fazed, so theres at least a chance their could be bidding on him.
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Based on injuries, performance, etc I do not think our team should be making moves based on our existing guys or even coaches. Many of todays players may not be here in 2 years. I think we just need to make moves to get younger, faster, and tougher every chance we can. If we can't do that with a trade for a player or prospect then just take back picks for either a draft or future trade package.
 
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kinghock said:
Kings were burned with PLD trade.

There is no way they will trade for old, expensive, perimeter-oriented player like Panarin.
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I would say there’s no way they’re trading names like Kempe or Byfield. That’s delusional. Clarke is a maybe. Turcotte and Jeannot and a 1st doesn’t seem like a no way. Our players have tanked their own values a bit this season. For two playoff runs at 50% Bread is definitely still valuable but there isn’t a world where he returns Kempe or Byfield at this point.
 
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LokiDog said:
I would say there’s no way they’re trading names like Kempe or Byfield. That’s delusional. Clarke is a maybe. Turcotte and Jeannot and a 1st doesn’t seem like a no way. Our players have tanked their own values a bit this season. For two playoff runs at 50% Bread is definitely still valuable but there isn’t a world where he returns Kempe or Byfield at this point.
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I'd be looking for the St Louis trade. (2) 1st's + player. Or at least comparable value. Clarke + 1st is comparable to the (2) 1st's. Who is comparable value to Callahan? Turcotte + Jeannot + 2nd?
 
LokiDog said:
I would say there’s no way they’re trading names like Kempe or Byfield. That’s delusional. Clarke is a maybe. Turcotte and Jeannot and a 1st doesn’t seem like a no way. Our players have tanked their own values a bit this season. For two playoff runs at 50% Bread is definitely still valuable but there isn’t a world where he returns Kempe or Byfield at this point.
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My point is Kings do not need Panarin even for not a big return.
 
Well I guess one good thing is the vegas line for Rangers to make/miss playoffs has not moved this am/pm
You know vegas would get first hand info if Fox was out long term and make tbe odds for them making playoffs a longer shot
 
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eco's bones said:
I get where you're coming from it's just that it would be just dumb at least on an organizational/player development level. If you're main mission is making a profit selling tickets for two playoff games---which is pretty much what happens if the team goes out in the first round after 4/5 games then I guess but......

Also we don't know how secure Drury feels and what he might try to save his job if he doesn't feel secure but IMO not selling and relying on hope can only hurt the team's future.
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My point is whatever the plan was (as already readjusted during 2024 fall from grace) - it shouldn't change based on yesterday's injuries. And all indications are that that plan was to sell.

Edit: Honestly the closer we get to the TDL the more anxiety I feel that it will go wrong even though so far I generally haven't seen Drury misreading the situation. He might fail on the execution end but not in identifying the areas to address.
 
The Rangers should not let anything on the ice or injuries deter them from trading Lindgren. It shouldnt matter if you have injuries on D. The departure of Lindgren needs to happen simultaneously with the acquisition of a replacement. They have cap space and nothing should really be off the table trade wise as far as the quality of the new left defenseman they desperately need (and have needed for 2 years since New Jersey exposed Fox and Lindgren's lack of speed together.
 
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Imo if Laviolette is still here so will Lindgren, both need to move on imo, no interest in a 4 or 5 year deal for Lindgren

kovazub94 said:
My point is whatever the plan was (as already readjusted during 2024 fall from grace) - it shouldn't change based on yesterday's injuries. And all indications are that that plan was to sell.

Edit: Honestly the closer we get to the TDL the more anxiety I feel that it will go wrong even though so far I generally haven't seen Drury misreading the situation. He might fail on the execution end but not in identifying the areas to address.
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I don't think they ever planned to sell, they cleared out cap space so they could buy
 
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Shesterkybomb said:
Imo if Laviolette is still here so will Lindgren, both need to move on imo, no interest in a 4 or 5 year deal for Lindgren



I don't think they ever planned to sell, they cleared out cap space so they could buy
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As long as its not a rental, buying is fine with me. They should still trade Lindgren

But if they rattle off 4 more wins here going into the deadline, we should all know what that means. Igor has looked vintage these last 2. If he can sustain it is the x factor.
 
McRanger92 said:
The Rangers should not let anything on the ice or injuries deter them from trading Lindgren. It shouldnt matter if you have injuries on D. The departure of Lindgren needs to happen simultaneously with the acquisition of a replacement. They have cap space and nothing should really be off the table trade wise as far as the quality of the new left defenseman they desperately need (and have needed for 2 years since New Jersey exposed Fox and Lindgren's lack of speed together.
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Yes but the rangers are stupid
 
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Shesterkybomb said:
Imo if Laviolette is still here so will Lindgren, both need to move on imo, no interest in a 4 or 5 year deal for Lindgren



I don't think they ever planned to sell, they cleared out cap space so they could buy
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If Lindgren were to get a long term deal it would be likely that he got an extension last summer. If this reasonable conclusion is correct then the next one is that Lindgren would get moved prior to TDL rather than letting him walk for no return in the offseason.

Would the Rangers be buyers with the cap space they freed? Two things - a large part of this cleared cap space is spoken for with next season increased to Shesterkin and Lafreniere (and Miller?). So in order actually be a buyer in the summer - they still can't resign Lindgren and maybe also move Kreider. Wrt this season if there was ever a plan to buy with the cap savings - this plan could be presumed has been re-adjusted after their free fall in November and December of 2024. I believe this to be the case because last season even though the Rangers were among the top teams overall leading into TDL, Drury wound up not making any significant moves (I think Hanifin was on the list of list targets but he wound up in Vegas and so Drury stayed put).
 
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