Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

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Nope I wasn't talking about last post-season.

Zibanejad definitely improved but there is no clear evidence that he's been unquestioned best player since the break. Eco expressed this view and of course you had to jump down his throat because he dared not to call him the best. go check out that exchange
What are you talking about? He expressed his view on a public forum. If he wish to not be challenged when factually wrong then he should refrain from posting.

This is the Allucks guy all over again when he claimed Staal and the Hurricanes always shut Mika down come post season. Some guys just throw shit out there and expect to not be challenged when posting asinine comments.
 
What are you talking about? He expressed his view on a public forum. If he wish to not be challenged when factually wrong then he should refrain from posting.

This is the Allucks guy all over again when he claimed Staal and the Hurricanes always shut Mika down come post season. Some guys just throw shit out there and expect to not be challenged when posting asinine comments.
OMG, can't believe how thick you're.

Zibanejad has not been the best player since the break. He is the most improved relative to his performance before the break that had been a complete dog shit.
 
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I honestly can not understand how anyone can be 100% trade Fox or 100% do not trade Fox until they hear what would be coming back in return.
The problem is the likelihood of whatever you get back being as good as or replacing what Fox means to this team is almost zero. Then you are stuck with a giant hole at 1D and clinging to hopes that some of the futures you get back may someday live up to that role. I have no interest in reliving the Ryan McDonaugh trade, which more likely than not would be exactly how it would play out.
 
The *ONLY* situation where trading Fox could come anywhere close to making an ounce of sense is a 100% tear down to the studs rebuild. Anyone with a brain can see that's not happening, ergo, anyone with a brain can see that trading Fox makes no sense at all.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I'm not in favor of trading Fox, but if he was the main piece of a hypothetical deal for McDavid or MacKinnon, you better believe I'm driving him to the airport. Personally, I would throw Brady T into that group as well, but I'm well aware not everyone here would agree with that, so don't @ me.

Other than a fantasy situation like I outlined above, regardless of what anyone here thinks, the chances are he's not going anywhere.
 
The problem is the likelihood of whatever you get back being as good as or replacing what Fox means to this team is almost zero. Then you are stuck with a giant hole at 1D and clinging to hopes that some of the futures you get back may someday live up to that role. I have no interest in reliving the Ryan McDonaugh trade, which more likely than not would be exactly how it would play out.

I would prefer to know the real deal that is offered (for all players) more than a likelihood before deciding. If its a bad deal we say no just like we should for most players.
 
The *ONLY* situation where trading Fox could come anywhere close to making an ounce of sense is a 100% tear down to the studs rebuild. Anyone with a brain can see that's not happening, ergo, anyone with a brain can see that trading Fox makes no sense at all.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I'm not in favor of trading Fox, but if he was the main piece of a hypothetical deal for McDavid or MacKinnon, you better believe I'm driving him to the airport. Personally, I would throw Brady T into that group as well, but I'm well aware not everyone here would agree with that, so don't @ me.

Other than a fantasy situation like I outlined above, regardless of what anyone here thinks, the chances are he's not going anywhere.
Before the season I saw a few top player rankings that had Fox ranked 25-37 in the NHL. I think ESPN had him ranked around 25 just for this 4 teams tournament (which many players did not play in) before it started. I'm not saying we would win a Fox trade or not. I do not like assuming that kind of thing. I'd prefer to hear the details first. If we could get a top 10 player or top 15 player than I think it would be crazy not to look at it. That is unlikely though unless part of a larger package.
 
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This is true. But what needs to be coming back in return to make it plausible is very unrealistic and unlikely to happen that it becomes meaningless to discuss
Realism and plausibility hasn't stopped roughly a thousand posts about trading Mika Zibanejad, a guy who actually has an NMC in place.

One guys a cool kid, the other guys not. This is a place that loves to punch down.
 
Is this an actual meme template or did you create this?

Bc I’m stealing it.
I've used it a couple times for Kakko but never actually wrote words in until now. I did it in paint.

If you google the phrase I think there's a more common version with some wiener dogs but it originates from the N64 game.
 
This is true. But what needs to be coming back in return to make it plausible is very unrealistic and unlikely to happen that it becomes meaningless to discuss


This is so dramatic lol

Few players stay with 1 team their whole career. Most hypothetical trades are unlikely but this is a hockey forum. Isn't discussing hockey in all aspects what we do here?
 
Few players stay with 1 team their whole career. Most hypothetical trades are unlikely but this is a hockey forum. Isn't discussing hockey in all aspects what we do here?
See rules for acceptable, realistic posting like: trading our most hated garbage players for high draft picks.
 
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I would prefer to know the real deal that is offered (for all players) more than a likelihood before deciding. If its a bad deal we say no just like we should for most players.
That's fair. I'd have to be blown away but yeah if they were able to get an equal or better player for him, I'd listen. It's the "trade him gor futures" deals in don't care for much.
 
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Realism and plausibility hasn't stopped roughly a thousand posts about trading Mika Zibanejad, a guy who actually has an NMC in place.

One guys a cool kid, the other guys not. This is a place that loves to punch down.
So, just so we are clear, "punching down" is calling out players and potentially wanting them traded that are playing bad and/or not living up to their contract and "punching up" i can only assume would be the inverse: calling out and wanting traded players that are playing well and living up to their contract. You think that the punching down is the bad position to have and that punching up is good. So you want to keep players that are bad and get rid of players that are good.

Players with NMCs are traded every season and every off-season. We literally just acquired one.
 
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