Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

[bernmeister]

who's better jt miller or mike modano

im still buying this team over the next 3 yrs with JT as 1C. move panarin kreids and lindgren for some assets, find fox a partner and - as someone else said - get young wings to do the dirty work so the older Cs can do their thing. 1 more vet W to supplement our youth is a good idea. I prefer Kempe to Fiala...

Kempe Miller Lafreniere
Cuylle Zibanejad Perreault
Othmann Trocheck Berard
Edstrom Carrick whoever
Rempe

wrongly
- keeps zib over ck
- expects LA to make Kempe available
- keeps Fox when now is [only] time we can convert him into needed quality youth]
and last but not least
disses Rempe

where have all the flowers gone?
when will they ever learn?
when will they ever learn...

 

[Alluckks]

The sens are not trading Brady. I wish people would stop with this dream. His trade value is about as high as it can be. Laf would have to start having 80 point seasons before we would be in any conversation.

Laf is 2 years younger and Brady has a single 80 point season in his career. So if Laf started having 80 point seasons, then I'd say it is more than a conversation

 

[BlueGoose27]

who's better jt miller or mike modano

im still buying this team over the next 3 yrs with JT as 1C. move panarin kreids and lindgren for some assets, find fox a partner and - as someone else said - get young wings to do the dirty work so the older Cs can do their thing. 1 more vet W to supplement our youth is a good idea. I prefer Kempe to Fiala...

Kempe Miller Lafreniere
Cuylle Zibanejad Perreault
Othmann Trocheck Berard
Edstrom Carrick whoever
Rempe

I second the Kempe over Fiala idea. Fiala too soft for me…not physical enough. Kempe has gotten better and more physical the past few years. The guy is legit. I believe next season is the last year of his current contract. If LA out of playoff pic, look for them to trade him for younger prospects/picks.

 

[bernmeister]

I second the Kempe over Fiala idea. Fiala too soft for me…not physical enough. Kempe has gotten better and more physical the past few years. The guy is legit. I believe next season is the last year of his current contract. If LA out of playoff pic, look for them to trade him for younger prospects/picks.

things can change but at this pt, expect they will go other direction, break the bank to keep Kempe

 

[bhamill]

I dont mind paying Rantanen, especially with JT locked in for 4 more years. I suggested Mikko as an option before he was dealt. I would be floored if he re-signs in Carolina. I also think Drury still covets Brady T and would probably want to leave his options open for the 2026 UFA class, Eichel in particular. Panarin needs to go in any of these scenarios. I think its very possible they look to deal him this summer.

As far as the 2026 class goes, Panarin’s deal would already be up.

 

[Vitto79]

So Vegas may be a fit for Lindgren

The fact that NYR can retain 50 Will help in a return

Would Vegas move Hague ?
Can’t see them resigning him

 

[leetch99]

I can get behind trading kakko and chytil if we also move the vets and let Othmann, Berard and Perreault into the lineup. If we trade them, I'm done.

Also, we have to be trading lindgren right? Right?

We likely move him for a 3rd rounder and then resign him in the Summer to be a 6th D for us unless somebody offers more for him or gives him an extra year on a new deal . Drury likely offer him 2.5 for 3 yrs ? Just a guesstimate . If Miller gets a big deal then it will leave less for Lindgren and likely will determine his fate , Myself...if cheap enough he would be a good 3rd pairing guy to have until we develop and keep one we drafted instead of trading them away like they did with Mancini.....which was a mistake IMO .

Anyway...it is out of our hands and all in the GM's .....no amount of lamenting on his play will make a difference to management

 

[leetch99]

Yes they will. He’s going to start making rumbles about wanting to leave , and they will have to trade him.

Unless they go on a run this season.

If they can add....and I have no idea on their Cap situation....they have a formidable team [when healthy ] and can play that grinding/pounding for flesh type of game . They could be that team nobody wants to play in round one . To have success though they would need everything to go their wway and Ulmark to steal a couple . They are a really fun team to watch .

 

[Synergy27]

All of this Rantanen smoke better be just clickbait. I can’t sit here and root for the team that actively chooses to have the highest paid goalie and the highest paid winger.

 

[Fitzy]

Rangers are in position to put together a package that gets Brady Tkachuk. Lafreniere, Perreault, Schneider as the primary pieces. I'm not saying its definitely will happen, but if things break right it's very predictable. And if Brady gets to choose his destination and prefers the Northeast, the Rangers have the best setup for him...despite some of our lunatic fans thinking the devils are an enticing spot for anyone.

As far as a big buy goes, Tkachuk makes more sense for us than Rantanen. Wish he had more than 3 years left of term, but I suppose that's around the time our adjusted window is supposed to end anyways.

 

[noncents]

laf perreault schneider for brady tkachuk? what are we smoking in here?? tkachuk/chabot, now we're talking

 

[Fitzy]

laf perreault schneider for brady tkachuk? what are we smoking in here?? tkachuk/chabot, now we're talking

My package would be

Sykora/Berard
K'Andre Miller
Jimmy Vesey

Doesn't empty the cabinet. Miller doesn't fit what we need on defense at all, is up for a long term 8 year deal, and is worth plenty in a trade. But that package probably isn't enough.

NYR can look to sign Chych in free agency.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'd take Rantanen in a heartbeat if you could just slot him into the lineup on Panarin's salary and boot Panarin to Pluto.

He's going to get paid more though. If it were a choice between Rantanen at 13.5 and Panarin at 11.6 I'd take Rantanen but its not an either or situation so I'd just wait it out a bit longer and see what shakes loose between this summer and next summer+keep the deck clear for any of the big UFA's.

Plus we really need to solve 1LD. Thats been the most pressing issue for this team for years now and if they're going to drop a bag somewhere this summer it should be there.

 

[McRanger92]

laf perreault schneider for brady tkachuk? what are we smoking in here?? tkachuk/chabot, now we're talking

Its going to take an overpay after the soft tampering debacle. Im assuming the worst and hoping for the best. Id hope to keep 1 of the 3.

So Vegas may be a fit for Lindgren

The fact that NYR can retain 50 Will help in a return

Would Vegas move Hague ?
Can’t see them resigning him

Lindgren and Reilly to VGK for Hague seems like an obvious move.

 

[bernmeister]

laf perreault schneider for brady tkachuk? what are we smoking in here?? tkachuk/chabot, now we're talking

do not want chab

also other than forfeit of a 1st, Sens are progressing nicely
BT may well stay
if not
cost to acquire likely prohibited

 

[noncents]

My package would be

Sykora/Berard
K'Andre Miller
Jimmy Vesey

Doesn't empty the cabinet. Miller doesn't fit what we need on defense at all, is up for a long term 8 year deal, and is worth plenty in a trade. But that package probably isn't enough.

NYR can look to sign Chych in free agency.

not only does replacing k'andre with chychrun not fix what needs fixing, there's no what this gets it done for tkachuk.

I'd take Rantanen in a heartbeat if you could just slot him into the lineup on Panarin's salary and boot Panarin to Pluto.

He's going to get paid more though. If it were a choice between Rantanen at 13.5 and Panarin at 11.6 I'd take Rantanen but its not an either or situation so I'd just wait it out a bit longer and see what shakes loose between this summer and next summer+keep the deck clear for any of the big UFA's.

Plus we really need to solve 1LD. Thats been the most pressing issue for this team for years now and if they're going to drop a bag somewhere this summer it should be there.

yup. trade vets up front and fix the D.

 

[McRanger92]

The league is going to want Brady Tkachuk somewhere in the US. He will be the Captain of Team USA in all likelihood at the Olympics. I think the Tkachuk family is going to push for him to be in the USA. Ottawa loses all leverage when the NMC kicks in. Is sneaking into the playoffs and getting bounced in round 1 convincing him to stay? The only reason they have a chance is because our dumbass squad stopped playing for a month and a half. They are a bubble team at best. And it's not like its a good market.

Brady will get dealt in the summer to the Rangers, Blues, Devils or Flyers. All 4 GMs have high motivation to get him. It's going to be a throwback haul to the Lindros trade. The trade negotiations will be good for ratings.

 

[Fitzy]

not only does replacing k'andre with chychrun not fix what needs fixing, there's no what this gets it done for tkachuk.

yup. trade vets up front and fix the D.

I'd agree. I just don't see NYR moving Perreault (Maybe Othmann) and they would need to offset cap space to make him work. I don't think Panarin is gone this offseason.

Who knows, maybe if they throw the farm at Ottawa they can get them to retain salary. But then you're talking about Perreault + firsts

 

[noncents]

I'd agree. I just don't see NYR moving Perreault (Maybe Othmann) and they would need to offset cap space to make him work. I don't think Panarin is gone this offseason.

Who knows, maybe if they throw the farm at Ottawa they can get them to retain salary. But then you're talking about Perreault + firsts

no way ottawa retains on tkachuk. no way.

I do think drury is done with panarin - we all see the mold of hockey player he likes. but panarin won't go to ottawa, nor kreider or anyone with protection.

i think it would have to start with laf+lindgren, and maybe you add a sykora. there's the money in/out, even though you lose the years of cost certainly on the Laf deal.

again i retain on panarin to get him to 9 or 10mil, get him to a west coast trying-to-contender.

 

[cheech70]

I want Brady...Fox and Laf should get there attention...who does Ott add?

 

[effen]

laf perreault schneider for brady tkachuk? what are we smoking in here?? tkachuk/chabot, now we're talking

- Laf is a dog to hit 50 points this year and has been a dog the whole year. Won't have a 60 point season in his first 5 years.
- Schneider plays primarily on the 3rd pairing for 4 years now. Team won't even entertain the concept of giving him 5 games with Fox.
- Perreault is a really nice piece but a magic bean when that team wants to win yesterday.

Schneider is the best piece, and if he were on another team the talk on this board would be getting him cheap since his current team doesn't seem to value him very much.

Sens would easily, and I do mean easily decline this offer. Haven't even thought about Chabot yet.

 

[Vitto79]

More for next year cause not sure they have the guts to trade Kreider this year but is Laf better at LW?

Cuylee is mostly LW but has he done a lot of RW too?

 

[pld459666]

I want Brady...Fox and Laf should get there attention...who does Ott add?

Ottawa.....a lot.....I mean painfully more

 

[Guyute]

Rantanen hasn’t done a thing in 4Nations until that PPG.

He would be a massive mistake for the Rangers.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Get it out of your heads that the Rangers trade Fox.

If the Rangers trade for B. Tkachuk, it starts with Laff plus likely Miller or Schneider.