Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[KirkAlbuquerque]

imo smart moves are sell high get people approaching the cusp
- retained bread to DAL for Bisch +
- Fox to OTT for Kleven ++++
- Shesty + Tro + for Byfield, Helenius, Clarke, Dvorak +

and just sign Gav as ufa

Trading Fox is brain dead, we’ll be looking for our next #1D for 15+ years.

 

[rangers1314]

Unless....EP40

EP is a wildly talented player, but if you’re trading for him you better be damn sure you can move Mika this summer…unless they are open trading Trocheck

 

[effen]

I'll be in Stamford next week, want me to say anything to Dru while I'm there?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

EP is a wildly talented player, but if you’re trading for him you better be damn sure you can move Mika this summer…unless they are open trading Trocheck

Unfortunately, Trochek also has that damnable clause -- so he's going nowhere without his permission.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Unfortunately, Trochek also has that damnable clause -- so he's going nowhere without his permission.

His NMC shifts to a m-NTC this summer. His deal was structured to be moveable starting year 4 which will be this upcoming year

 

[jerseyjinx94]

We should be trying to get more Trocheck’s not shed Trocheck

 

[bernmeister]

Trading Fox is brain dead, we’ll be looking for our next #1D for 15+ years.

guess again
he is slow now and can adjust short term
but as time goes on this will eventually not be the case
IF you got the right partner -- you'll never get Sanderson, but he'd be the guy -- that would help
BUT it would still not undo the underlying reality

I get he's a fan fave and he deserves that
but either we sell high now or we are married to him for the duration

so rebuke me all you want, we'll see how long it takes for me to be proven right

We should be trying to get more Trocheck’s not shed Trocheck

In a vacuum, as a rule, huge yes
Howev, if a deal in totality = too much profit to turn down, that is exception to the rule

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

His NMC shifts to a m-NTC this summer. His deal was structured to be moveable starting year 4 which will be this upcoming year

My mistake....don't know what I was reading. Thanks muchly.

 

[TominNC]

How do you know? Also heard that with many other NTC players over the years.

It's an NMC. Also constructed to be pretty much buy out proof. He negotiated it to stay in NY.

 

[RGY]

Sabres showing interest in EP40. If that happens, I don’t know how it affects JTM.

 

[rangers1314]

I don’t think Van has any real interest in moving EP.

 

[NickyFotiu]

It's an NMC. Also constructed to be pretty much buy out proof. He negotiated it to stay in NY.

He wanted a choice. Doesn't mean he will insist on staying where he is not wanted anymore than other guys with nmc or ntc insisted on staying when they were not wanted. Very few guys stay for long in pro sport cities after declining trades.

 

[RGY]

Its that time of the year where every team around you is going to OT to get at least 1 point

 

[kovazub94]

I guess I'm late to this party.....I am all for getting a 1LD -- my question is how this can happen? Who/what do we trade to bring in such a high level player? Just asking.

Rangers have assets. Not saying that Schneider will be in JTM trade but who said a he can’t be moved in the right deal. Miller still RTA but not committed to with long term contract. Already mentioned Kreider. If I had to put money on anything it would be that if a good LD is coming with Kreider going the other way.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Its that time of the year where every team around you is going to OT to get at least 1 point

Bad night in standings for us

 

[lakeshirts37]

I know Vince said Schneider isnt going anywhere but we all know that can change. Any chance of prying Power out of Buffalo for Schneider++? They have a glut of LD and desperately need a RD.

Power - Fox
Miller - Borgen

would be very nice

 

[noncents]

i hope not. My thinking is that signing Borgen to a 2RD salary and deploying him in a 2RD role "justifies" trading Kakko

okay i was over the number by 25%, pretty wrong, but had the overall contract value correct.

also - no way to prove it but i stand by my assignment of the rationale, that establishing his value here as a top 4 defender, and *paid as such*, has a lot to do with framing the Kakko trade as a win.

 

[noncents]

How’s this a mess? The only bad one is Zibanejad’s with all restrictions and price to performance ratio. Kreider and Panarin are movable and valuable (and tbh - 3*$8 for Panarin after his current contract expires could be a pretty reasonable deal).

Panarin has a NMC and has plot armor here.

what do Miller and Cuylle get?

 

[McRanger92]

With Rantanen gone, do the Avs become a player for Kreider?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Bad night in standings for us

Too early for scoreboard watching

 

[lakeshirts37]

With Rantanen gone, do the Avs become a player for Kreider?

Probably not. They need to upgrade 2C. Necas is taking Rantanen spots on line 1. l

 

[lakeshirts37]

okay i was over the number by 25%, pretty wrong, but had the overall contract value correct.

also - no way to prove it but i stand by my assignment of the rationale, that establishing his value here as a top 4 defender, and *paid as such*, has a lot to do with framing the Kakko trade as a win.

I can say with relative certainty that this is not the case at all

 

[effen]

okay i was over the number by 25%, pretty wrong, but had the overall contract value correct.

also - no way to prove it but i stand by my assignment of the rationale, that establishing his value here as a top 4 defender, and *paid as such*, has a lot to do with framing the Kakko trade as a win.

Frame it to who? Dolan's not demanding an After Action Report of a Kaapo Kakko trade.

 

[Savant]

I don’t think Van has any real interest in moving EP.

Vancouver thought EP was going to Carolina last night, but Carolina did the Colorado deal instead

 

[RGY]

Oof this is bad



Guy looks miserable to be there