Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[Flan the incredible]

Canucks losing 3-0 early...

I would be shocked if JT isn't moved soon. Canucks should make a move before it gets worse.

 

[McRanger92]

Canucks losing 3-0 early...

I would be shocked if JT isn't moved soon. Canucks should make a move before it gets worse.

Reports it may drag to the TDL. Idk how the Canucks can afford that. Rangers/Canes rumors back and forth is reminiscent of Guentzel last year. I think it could be resolved before next week but who knows. Canucks have really bungled it. Drury shouldn’t panic.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Stay away from jt miller. The cost will be prohibitive and right now, all the guys van wants are part of this 10 game resurgence.

55 and 79
72 and 13

The issue isn't moving those guys for
Miller , it's moving 20 and 93 for anything and that's gonna be tough.

Be patient and let van come back to us so we can make them a worse offer than before.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Reports it may drag to the TDL. Idk how the Canucks can afford that. Rangers/Canes rumors back and forth is reminiscent of Guentzel last year. I think it could be resolved before next week but who knows. Canucks have really bungled it. Drury shouldn’t panic.

Agreed. JT's value will continue to plummet and the Canes may look elsewhere. If that happens Rangers might be there only option and why would Drury bid against himself?

Chytil could be a nice piece for him all things considered.

 

[Daves a mess]

12-16 -3 in the last 31.

 

[McRanger92]

I feel like the Rangers need to move Kreider before they can get JT. Move Kreider’s money and you can take on the full Milker contract, and maybe not have to trade Chytil. I do firmly believe that the team needs that element he brings when it comes to facing off with the other teams top players

 

[CasusBelli]

Looking at Borgen vs Trouba and how well Kakko has played for Seattle, it looks like Kakko, Seattle, Borgen, NYR all benefited from that trade. Drury looks like a genius with these trades. The steps he took that forced him to pull them, however, not so much.

I feel like the Rangers need to move Kreider before they can get JT. Move Kreider’s money and you can take on the full Milker contract, and maybe not have to trade Chytil. I do firmly believe that the team needs that element he brings when it comes to facing off with the other teams top players

Heck, move Kreider and sign Rantanen this offseason and McDavid the next one after Artemi is done with his contract. Thank you cap space.

 

[McRanger92]

Looking at Borgen vs Trouba and how well Kakko has played for Seattle, it looks like Kakko, Seattle, Borgen, NYR all benefited from that trade. Drury looks like a genius with these trades. The steps he took that forced him to pull them, however, not so much.


Heck, move Kreider and sign Rantanen this offseason and McDavid the next one after Artemi is done with his contract. Thank you cap space.

If Drury can continue to pull these cap space vanishing acts with Kreider and Mika the possibilities are endless. It helps that the guys coming through Hartford have looked so solid.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Looking at Borgen vs Trouba and how well Kakko has played for Seattle, it looks like Kakko, Seattle, Borgen, NYR all benefited from that trade. Drury looks like a genius with these trades. The steps he took that forced him to pull them, however, not so much.


Heck, move Kreider and sign Rantanen this offseason and McDavid the next one after Artemi is done with his contract. Thank you cap space.

The kappo thing to me is humorous. He isn't shooting anymore then when he was a Ranger. 23 shots in 15 games is almost exactly half of what he did in 30 games. His shooting percentage is double what he shot as a Ranger. He doesn't have a shot so all his points are assists. Are we going to pretend he is a playmaker now? I am not a gambler but if I was I would put a lot on him not keeping this pace up for long periods of time.

 

[bernmeister]

I feel like the Rangers need to move Kreider before they can get JT. Move Kreider’s money and you can take on the full Milker contract, and maybe not have to trade Chytil. I do firmly believe that the team needs that element he brings when it comes to facing off with the other teams top players

1. CK is not the prob, zib is
2. looking basically at the $$, jtm = 8 + VAN wants to move Desharnais who = 2, or a total of 10
Smith + Lindy = 8ish add Kaliyev < 1 and elc Sykora = total 10ish

they will want more, so do
Vaak + Borgen + cap dump Vesey
for
Forbot + Juulsen + VAN 1st

long term adding 1st is worth it, Forbot + Juulsen are fine as a stopgap
if Desh is a pylon as advertised, waive and bring up Mancini
keep Chytil, keep our picks

 

[rangersfansince08]

Replace Lindgren with Pettersson
Offload Kreider
Offload Mika
Acquire JT Miller
Bring Berard back up

When Panarin's contract expires don't resign him and use that money for Rantanen or McDavid

 

[xsniper11x]

The kappo thing to me is humorous. He isn't shooting anymore then when he was a Ranger. 23 shots in 15 games is almost exactly half of what he did in 30 games. His shooting percentage is double what he shot as a Ranger. He doesn't have a shot so all his points are assists. Are we going to pretend he is a playmaker now? I am not a gambler but if I was I would put a lot on him not keeping this pace up for long periods of time.

Borgen has been such a stabilizing presence that it shouldn’t matter. However, for those who still can’t let go, I recommend you look at the Kakko line’s SH% in SEA. It’s one thing for a player to be shooting at 20-25%, but the whole line? That’s something else. That means their pt totals can halve from their current pace. I’ll let you work out what that looks like over 82gp.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Replace Lindgren with Pettersson
Offload Kreider
Offload Mika
Acquire JT Miller
Bring Berard back up

When Panarin's contract expires don't resign him and use that money for Rantanen or McDavid

Well if you want Rantanen you're going to have to move him sooner than that and hope that he doesnt extend in Colorado.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Stay away from jt miller. The cost will be prohibitive and right now, all the guys van wants are part of this 10 game resurgence.

55 and 79
72 and 13

The issue isn't moving those guys for
Miller , it's moving 20 and 93 for anything and that's gonna be tough.

Be patient and let van come back to us so we can make them a worse offer than before.

Let them have #55.

 

[n8]

When is the last time we got a point from all 6 defensemen?

 

[RangerBoy]

12-16 -3 in the last 31.

Think positive thoughts. The Rangers could go the other way in February. Their key players are participating in the 4 Nations expect for the Russians.

 

[haohmaru]

12-16 -3 in the last 31.

Yeah, but that's not really illustrating the current trend now is it?

 

[RangerBoy]

Up in the Blue Seats Podcast featuring Mollie Walker, Brian Boyle and HHOF Larry Brooks:

The Rangers players got mad because Kreider was mentioned in Drury's subtext to the other GM's. Brokks mentioned that in the pod. Disrespected? It's a business. They were mad about Goodrow and Trouba in the summer. The Rangers went 5-15 after EF's tweet regarding Drury looking at making changes. Can Drury disrespect another player so the Rangers can go 4-10 leading up to the deadline?

The Rangers are winning games. It's weird. Their top forwards are not really playing that well. Their numbers are down. Their PP is the same nonsense. Igor is great. The Flyers had a million chances in the 2nd period. Borgen and Urho have stabilized the D.

I blame Optimum for dropping MSG. The Rangers haven't lost since then.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Also holy crap was Trouba such an obvious detriment on the entire room

Lost so much respect for the guys vaunted leadership skills when you decide to not even just actively check out, but poison pill the locker room, while still wearing the C mind you, just because a team was utilizing trade searches and options within the damn contract that you signed and milked every last dollar out of

He'll probably come back as NYR GM some day.

Kind of ironic the debacle unfolded on Drury's watch. Pot calling Kettal black.

 

[Kocur Dill]

The Rangers players got mad because Kreider was mentioned in Drury's subtext to the other GM's. Brokks mentioned that in the pod. Disrespected? It's a business. They were mad about Goodrow and Trouba in the summer. The Rangers went 5-15 after EF's tweet regarding Drury looking at making changes. Can Drury disrespect another player so the Rangers can go 4-10 leading up to the deadline?

The Rangers are winning games. It's weird. Their top forwards are not really playing that well. Their numbers are down. Their PP is the same nonsense. Igor is great. The Flyers had a million chances in the 2nd period. Borgen and Urho have stabilized the D.

I blame Optimum for dropping MSG. The Rangers haven't lost since then.

Goalies and Role players carrying the team. Nothings changed accept the win column. Defence and role players padding the scoring columns.

The Marque players are pedestrians.

 

[RangerBoy]

Goalies and Role players carrying the team. Nothings changed accept the win column. Defence and role players padding the scoring columns.

The Marque players are pedestrians.

Sam Carrick has become Guy Carbonneau.

 

[RangerBoy]

EF said people thought the Rangers were planning to tank the season when Igor went on IR after the Florida game on December 30. The Rangers had Igor under contract(to keep him) and they would protect their asset instead of exposing him playing in front of a disinterested team.

EF said Carolina is looking at other things besides Miller. John Gibson. Complicated deal to make. Retention for Gibson. He has a very small list of teams.

 

[Daves a mess]

Yeah, but that's not really illustrating the current trend now is it?

Wasn't trying to illustrate anything. Actually, if anything, when I did the math I couldn't believe that after watching some of the worst Ranger hockey in my lifetime, that somehow, they were only 4 games under now after the 12-4-1 start.

 

[Daves a mess]

Think positive thoughts. The Rangers could go the other way in February. Their key players are participating in the 4 Nations expect for the Russians.

I cant believe that this team just flipped the switch and decided to play committed team defense. The huge gaps have closed significantly in all 3 zones. Been a fun January.

 

[leetch99]

I’d like to have Ehlers. Probably cost between 8.25 and 8.5 per. That’s a lot for a speedy RW with a good shot, but can be somewhat shutdown in the playoffs and his slight body is susceptible to injury.

In due time we have our own Ehlers in Perreault .