Amazing Kreiderman
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Oh, a free agent. Gotcha.
7x7.25m which would be in line with the 8.96% Burns got at roughly the same age
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVII
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Oh, a free agent. Gotcha.
7x7.25m which would be in line with the 8.96% Burns got at roughly the same age
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Depends, am I trying to beat the market? Because I won't do that.
Do we know that Trouba has limited destinations where he wants to play? How important is a NTC to him? We can also front load money that some others teams can't do.
6 years, 6.5 per year, 3 year full NTC followed by 3 years limited NTC (10-12 team no trade list seems standard
SA16
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Yea so I don't really understand why we would trade a lot of assets to get him AND then give him that contract anyway. It's too much value to give up. I would honestly not trade anything of value to WPG for him unless he is willing to take a below market value deal (which I highly doubt). I'm borderline on whether I would take him from WPG for nothing in return. I am fine letting someone else trade for him and then extend him. I like the player but this potential move really doesn't make much sense.
Ok maybe I am off here (and I like Trouba) but if I am trading Lias, Buch and possibly Nils Trouba better be a definite top 1 RHD. That's a lot of young talent basically making no money for a guy that is gonna ask for 7 plus million easily. If it is true that other teams are driving up the price so be it. Let the Islanders give up Dobson plus for him.
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Zibanejbread
Rebuilding.
I'm also in the camp of waiting to see if he gets to UFA. If WPG wants to keep him as a self-rental, there's no way he's signing for more than one year. If they move him, fine - at this stage, it's not worth the assets + contract for him... however, if he gets to UFA, I'd be fine giving him 7 x $7.5. Guess we'll see how it plays out soon.
Amazing Kreiderman
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If Vesey was not good offensively, why did Quinn put him on the power play?
I would want to go back and check but I don't think Vesey got much power play time and when he did it was during a hot streak. Vesey also spent time on the 4th line when his play declined. I agree that ADA made great strides offensively this year and I appreciate that but no one will confuse him for a shut down defensemen.
That Chi/Pit deal is weird. Wonder what the Pens are freeing up cap for.
DutchShamrock
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Kind of lost in the mix, it was a bit cavalier how Brooks mentioned Shattenkirk would be moved if Trouba was acquired. Like its formality.
If Larry has his ear to the ground, maybe there is a market for Shattenkirk.
I think we are way too down on a bunch of our guys. I guess we'll see.
If Larry has his ear to the ground, maybe there is a market for Shattenkirk.
I think we are way too down on a bunch of our guys. I guess we'll see.
They needed to free up room. They're always up against the cap. Plus, Maatta looked like he was plateauing as a great third-paid D and not a great second-pair D. Getting top-4 $. So they get a young cheap forward who has some production, and move a contract that costs more than the return. Chicago is hoping Maatta cap be top-4 going forward in their system. Great trade for Pittsburgh, Good trade for Chicago. Both teams are happy with this.
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SA16
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I am not so sure they are looking to free up space rather than just happened to find a deal where they were able to trade a bad player for a good one. They still don't really have enough space to do anything. There has been talk that the Hawks were looking for a defenseman so I would think they initiated this
TheBloodyNine
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Larry has no sources. He lost his sources within the organization. This pisses him off.
Larry doesn’t like the rebuild. He wants the Rangers to trade everything to “compete.” The rebuild pisses him off.
His agenda is clear. His articles are trash. He’s no better than Eklund at this point.
Larry doesn’t like the rebuild. He wants the Rangers to trade everything to “compete.” The rebuild pisses him off.
His agenda is clear. His articles are trash. He’s no better than Eklund at this point.
Based on the article the other day, he's probably leaning towards a buyout to get rid of Shattenkirk. It certainly doesn't make sense to keep him around if Trouba winds up here but I have a hard time seeing a market for him. Swap of bad contracts more than likely.
egelband
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Good point. I was going to mention this before. I sometimes wish the Rangers fans on this board were a bit more like the Leafs fans here, so impressed with everything they have. "we'll throw you...Zaitsev...for Ziba-whatshisname. We need a 4C..." They take it too far, of course, but you know what I mean.
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I’d be fine with 20, Buch and Lundkvist if Trouba signs an extension long term immediately
Wonder what they do with Kreider if they move Buch.
I’d move Vesey to Buffalo for Oskari Laaksonen, he would be a nice replacement in the system for Lundkvist
Wonder what they do with Kreider if they move Buch.
I’d move Vesey to Buffalo for Oskari Laaksonen, he would be a nice replacement in the system for Lundkvist
HatTrick Swayze
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Call me crazy but I don’t think 20 Buch and Nils is that bad for Trouba. High liklihood that Trouba is the best player in that deal by a long shot.
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Replace Buch with Andersson and it's something I would be willing to do, although if Winnipeg wants the more proven player that is sensible. But I think @SA16 has made a fair argument for staying away from Trouba when we have to pay up these assets and then sign him to a market value deal. Not sure it's the right move. I'm hoping we are looking at something like Andersson+Pionk instead of Buch+Lundkvist
eco's bones
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Trouba's only about a year and a half older than DeAngelo and he's had 6 full years in the NHL and Tony's only really had 1 +. Tony's strength is his offensive skills--Trouba's offensive skills are at least as good if not better. Trouba's bigger and stronger and much more physical than Tony and he can flatten players with a hit. He's also a lot better defensively than Tony. Trouba plays in all situations including the penalty kill. As a player Trouba is at least close to being on par with Ryan McDonagh when he played for us. He's a legit first pairing defenseman. Tony isn't near that.
I'm fine moving Pionk instead of DeAngelo but if the Jets wanted DeAngelo in the deal it would be see you later Tony.
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egelband
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I tend to agree but it depends on the contract signed. But yeah, it's not a crazy price.
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