Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Mac n Gs]

Sorry, but there is ZERO chance Buffalo turned down Petterson for those two guys.

This wasn’t an actual proposal. It was Elliotte Friedman spitballing ideas on 32T last week, and despite him saying it’s just him spitballing, everyone is running with it like BUF and VAN discussed this trade

 

[CTRanger]

It is what was rumored to be the major pieces. There is no doubt that they’ve been talking.

 

[bernmeister]

Is that really the 3rd option? I only gave 2 options and retaining on Zibanejad was my first option.

Apologies

you said
"Buying him out should not be an option. I get addition by subtraction, but these buy-out proof contracts make it difficult to replace a player while maintaining that cap hit. If they can't find a trade for Zibanejad (NMC waived), to a team who willingly taking 100-50%, then the only option left is retaining 50% with an overpayment to a 3rd team eating half of what's left.

What's worse, giving up an overpayment removing a couple of years of assets, or keeping Zibanejad? I'm not really sure anymore. The future looks to have a set back either way."

As indicated I emphasized the bold.
I am noting now you covered it in the underline

Howev I think if you go for a modest return from, say VAN, as I have already posted, then you wind up not having to make an overpayment to a 3rd team.
If what you extract from VAN is minimal, they are underwriting the risk/cost of retaining 2 on balance of zib deal if they need to send him to cap cellar dweller.

So the '3rd option' is max retain, min but useful return, = min overpayment for a 3rd team that 'nucks charge us upfront

 

[JohnC]

If the Rangers had a better evaluation of the defensive prospect they were getting and more patient with Howden I could see a better acceptance of that trade as reasonable.

It’s easy for us to forget that Howden had legit two-way 2C upside until he was rushed into the NHL and forced to play for David Quinn.

Hajek though…no clue what they were thinking there…

 

[bernmeister]

.... Hajek though…no clue what they were thinking there…

Hajek was well regarded and played like an All Star for like 4 games
then injured his shoulder, which you think is easier to come back from than other injuries, but no, that ruined him and he was obv never the same

 

[QJL]

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider should all be moved with retention if necessary.

 

[bl02]

Guys don't regress this quickly. Guys like Mika had a kid, enjoying comfy home life and are pretty much checked out.

 

[Daves a mess]

New York Rangers > Prostate Biopsy

 

[kovazub94]

It’s easy for us to forget that Howden had legit two-way 2C upside until he was rushed into the NHL and forced to play for David Quinn.

Hajek though…no clue what they were thinking there…

Tools without toolbox. Easy mistake to make with a teen prospect.

 

[effen]

Guys don't regress this quickly. Guys like Mika had a kid, enjoying comfy home life and are pretty much checked out.

I think Mika has a medical issue. He looks frail.

 

[Charlie Conway]

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Let’s try to make it so Kevin can understand. There are 12 notes. In this particular type of music, they are playing the notes 1, 4, and 5. To change it up so the song stays interesting, there playing the notes 5, 4, 1 instead.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

More Canadians please, enough of drury pushing the us development league and euros on us.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

All the current NHL players that the Rangers have drafted or been gifted through European free agency* and NCAA/CHA free agency** that have played a minimum of 40 NHL regular games:

Kreider JT Miller Zuccarello*
Cuylle Hayes** Buchnevich
Lafreniere Chytil Duclair
Edstrom Howden Kakko
Barron Vesey**

McDonagh Pionk**
Skjei Schneider
Miller McIlrath
Graves
Jones

Shesterkin
Georgiev*
Talbot**

This is a damming history of the amateur drafting and development of its prospects over the last dozen years by this organization.