Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[McRanger92]

@ Dallas
Carolina
@ New Jersey
@ Tampa
@ Florida
Boston
@ Washington
@ Chicago
Dallas
New Jersey
@ Vegas
@ Colorado

There is a real chance we are in the bottom ~5 in the league in a month.

Trade before, during or after that stretch?

 

[TheDirtyH]

I know we can't keep harping on about it it, but not getting a game breaking talent with #1OA pick, plus barely getting an average NHLer out of picks 2, 7 and 9 really hurts anything you are trying to build

I won't give this team that credit. They bungled their top picks, tried to re-write the book on how to develop 18 y/o blue chippers in the NHL and they went 0 for 2.

 

[McRanger92]

I know we can't keep harping on about it it, but not getting a game breaking talent with #1OA pick, plus barely getting an average NHLer out of picks 2, 7 and 9 really hurts anything you are trying to build

Kakko is a lost cause, but Laf is good. Rangers need to build around him and get a center with some size. Maybe Cozens. Laffy was breaking games open in the playoffs

 

[mike14]

Kakko is a lost cause, but Laf is good. Rangers need to build around him and get a center with some size. Maybe Cozens. Laffy was breaking games open in the playoffs

He's a very good player (as you'd expect for the first pick), and should still get better, but I wouldn't classify him as a game breaker. IMO he hasn't yet shown he can do it with any regularity, and without a guy like Panarin

 

[ThePeoplesPeople]

Trade before, during or after that stretch?

My guess would be during and after.

 

[will1066]

I'm exhausted

 

[Cmox]

Who would come back?

 

[bernmeister]

Just get rid of the vets over the next year

get rid of the losers, now. Not after xmas

immediately asap

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Who would come back?

I'd love to pry Khusnutdinov out of there but probably not realistic even if he's buried.

If I had to guess probably something dumb like Stramel.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Who would come back?

Knowing Drury, probably a 7th rounder.


But IDK. We would need to add for Rossi. Maybe their first rounder for Kakko?

I'd love to pry Khusnutdinov out of there but probably not realistic even if he's buried.

If I had to guess probably something dumb like Stramel.

No way Drury gets a Russian

 

[Trxjw]

This team needs some semblance of a plan

Who would come back?

Bad news is there's not a lot of intriguing pieces they could swap him for that would help right away. Good news is Minny has a phenomenal prospect pool so maybe Guerin does something silly.

He also seems to inexplicably dislike Marco Rossi. Though I'd wager that's just posturing to keep the new contract down.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Trade before, during or after that stretch?

You get most value at TDL as more teams can bid. Id wait until then. Throw the towel in on the season and move whoever you can for solid assets at TDL. Mainly Smith, Lindgren and probably kakko. Then hockey trades with kreids and kandre after the cup prior to free agency

 

[LORDE]

I love that this is now a stalemate of bad vs bad

Players vs management and neither are blinking from their burn it down stance.

No clue where the bottom of this goes.

Like has a NHL team ever forfeited?

Is that even allowed?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Like has a NHL team ever forfeited?

Is that even allowed?

If there's a way, these quitters will figure it out.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Knowing Drury, probably a 7th rounder.


But IDK. We would need to add for Rossi. Maybe their first rounder for Kakko?



No way Drury gets a Russian

I don't think so either.

Stupid Kravtsov.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

This team needs some semblance of a plan


Bad news is there's not a lot of intriguing pieces they could swap him for that would help right away. Good news is Minny has a phenomenal prospect pool so maybe Guerin does something silly.

He also seems to inexplicably dislike Marco Rossi. Though I'd wager that's just posturing to keep the new contract down.

When it comes to trade, Guerin simply doesn't do dumb trades. He literally only gave up a 1st for David J because he's a long term pieces. He has never traded any top top Prospect. Rossi is also a 1c on a contending team

 

[mike14]

Knowing Drury, probably a 7th rounder.


But IDK. We would need to add for Rossi. Maybe their first rounder for Kakko?



No way Drury gets a Russian

He just gave a Russian $11.5m per, he can't hate them that much....

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers get Cole Sillinger
Bluejackets get Kaapo Kakko


Rangers get center depth
Bluejackets get wing depth


Swaping over former 1st round picks that has not planned out yet


Fair deal?? Fills a need for both teams.

 

[CTTribe73]

I know we can't keep harping on about it it, but not getting a game breaking talent with #1OA pick, plus barely getting an average NHLer out of picks 2, 7 and 9 really hurts anything you are trying to build

They had a shot at Stutzle but chose KK

 

[CTTribe73]

Who did it better-

1) Columbia protesters
2) Ranger players

 

[Boris Zubov]

They had a shot at Stutzle but chose KK

They were drafted in different years. Stutzle went 3rd after Laffy.

 

[LokiDog]

They were drafted in different years. Stutzle went 3rd after Laffy.

At the time we wanted 3 & 5 or 3 & Tkachuk, was the rumor. Imagine getting an offer where Stutzle, Tkachuk or even Sanderson was only part of the return for Laffy now? Franchise is genuinely cursed. Makes you wonder what someone did to deserve this.

 

[WhereO Is Kakko]

Sorry if this was posted already somewhere, but wow hearing Rupp go off on coaches and management is pretty wild:
(posting link - not sure how/if tweets shows up on HFB)

 

[noncents]

kakko is going to go to a real team and immediately look/play/be 50% better. then he'll probably continue to get better from there.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

New York State has hit the trifecta of bad hockey.
23, 24 and 30th place teams.