Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Oscar Lindberg]

I have to give Drury and the coaching staff credit. They’ve done a great job of ostracizing and pissing off not only the veterans, but younger players too!

Misery for all

 

[I Eat Crow]

Vancouver is looking for a winger and top 4 D. Lindgren and Smith to Vancouver. 50% on both players. 75% combined retention on Smith. 1st round, 2nd round pick and 4th round pick. Jim Rutherford likes to move early. Van acquired Lindholm from Calgary last January. In 2006, Rutherford acquired Doug Weight from the Blues in January. Late in the month.

Provorov's family like Columbus, Ohio. His younger brother is committed to Ohio State. That's 2 or 3 years away. He is interested in staying there if the contract is right. Takes a rental D off the market.

I like how you think. Take out the 1st rounder and I think you have something close. 2nd 2025 (becomes their 1st if they make the conference finals), 2nd 2026, and a 2025 4th.

 

[McRanger92]

Country Club boys dont care about their on ice play.

I wouldve given anything to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. How does the anti-Drury meeting even go? Hit the showers and look in a mirror would be my suggestion.

 

[GAGLine]

He will never hit 60 points in the organization......and most likely, no other organization for that matter. Hopium is a nasty nasty drug.

You may be right, but he still has value as a 40-point winger. Why throw that away? Who are you replacing him with that is better and/or cheaper?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It was 100000% drurys call on the tony stuff fyi. I can tell you this for a fact with inside knowledge

So it was assistant GM Chris Drury who suspended DeAngelo, but it was GM Jeff Gorton who then did a press conference together with team President John Davidson to explain it all?

 

[LokiDog]

Mika:

Kakko:

 

[Levitate]

I mean yeah maybe drury needs to change how hes doing business here a bit. I also get the feeling like he's fed up and has been fed up with some of the players on this team and he isn't taking kindly to "take the money and play like shit" that's come up. He sees that the team needs changes and the players resist that so he's using the tools he has to change it.
Dunno, honestly they all kinds seem like assholes and idiots.
Players need to do their f***in' job. Drury's shenanagans aren't something that should play out on the ice

 

[mike14]

This isn't accurate.

Nobody "enjoys" beer.

You're dead to me.

I'm also pretty sure this post would get you stopped at the airport if you ever tried to visit Australia....

 

[will1066]

Maybe we should've kept Wheeler

 

[Atax]

I mean yeah maybe drury needs to change how hes doing business here a bit. I also get the feeling like he's fed up and has been fed up with some of the players on this team and he isn't taking kindly to "take the money and play like shit" that's come up. He sees that the team needs changes and the players resist that so he's using the tools he has to change it.
Dunno, honestly they all kinds seem like assholes and idiots.
Players need to do their f***in' job. Drury's shenanagans aren't something that should play out on the ice

Probably the most reasonable take here.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

I mean yeah maybe drury needs to change how hes doing business here a bit. I also get the feeling like he's fed up and has been fed up with some of the players on this team and he isn't taking kindly to "take the money and play like shit" that's come up. He sees that the team needs changes and the players resist that so he's using the tools he has to change it.
Dunno, honestly they all kinds seem like assholes and idiots.
Players need to do their f***in' job. Drury's shenanagans aren't something that should play out on the ice

I mean, he's fed up yet they've gone to two ECFs in three years under his watch. Yes the team needs changes but he could go about his business better and stop with the fake tough guy attitude. No one told him to sign Goodrow, keep Lindgren around this year, or hand out that absurd contract to Igor. Now I know why most of his Fairfield Prep team couldn't stand him.

 

[McRanger92]

Maybe we should've kept Wheeler

Blake never won anything

 

[will1066]

Blake never won anything

Still sounds like a leader more than those hair lickers infesting the room now

 

[Machinehead]

You're dead to me.

I'm also pretty sure this post would get you stopped at the airport if you ever tried to visit Australia....

It is literally liquid bread and alcohol, two things that don't taste good.

 

[will1066]

Mika:
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Kakko:
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That's Sam Carrick. I can imagine him just refusing to join any cliques and shooing off reporters. "I don't hang with them. I don't know shit. I clock in and out and go do my own thing."

 

[mrmovies779]

So I have 3 options for tonight...#1 watch the Rangers,#2 go Xmas shopping with the wife,#3 hammer a rusty nail into my nuts....option 3 it is!

 

[haohmaru]

It is literally liquid bread and alcohol, two things that don't taste good.

I've read a lot of dumb shit around here, especially lately, but this might be as bad a take as I've ever seen. And that's really saying something considering the past six weeks.

 

[Levitate]

I mean, he's fed up yet they've gone to two ECFs in three years under his watch. Yes the team needs changes but he could go about his business better and stop with the fake tough guy attitude. No one told him to sign Goodrow, keep Lindgren around this year, or hand out that absurd contract to Igor. Now I know why most of his Fairfield Prep team couldn't stand him.

Fair to some extent other than I think he's tried to give the core group of players the pieces that they'd need and they've come up short, and he really wanted to make changes this summer but players were blocking him (Goodrow didn't want to waive, Trouba didn't want to waive). Sure it's their right to do so and we can certainly argue he should have done a better job about it.
But I'm not sure anyone here looks good anymore, it's one big dysfunctional family

 

[jay from jersey]

Guys, igor is not being traded. Please drop it.

This.
Igor and Fox are not part of the problem.
They are part of the solution…..
Panarin is elite at putting up points……
His defense, selfishness, unwilling to pay the physical price mentality plus age and length of contract is why he should be dealt……
Kreider as well. Hes not a bad wing, but looking at bit from all angles……
For how long each are here and what they can bring back in trade to help this team for multiple seasons along with their cap hits, it should be a no brainer……..
This season is already likely in the toilet….
Zibby beyond being waived will likely still be here. Bad center depth, his immovable contract, and lowest trade value of his career almost assuredly make it certain he’s on the team next season….
Lindgren should be gone too. Let Fox sulk for the rest of the season with rest of the team and start fresh next year….
Kakko should be dealt too…. Playing well and should have decent value for a hockey trade…. Too many burnt bridges here… won’t get a longer leash of bigger opportunity here either. Make the deal, and give Berard/Othmann the 3rd line minutes……
It’s just simple logic at this point

 

[Levitate]

alright, flip flopping your opinion on players on a game to game basis is one thing but machinehead trying to take a stand on "do people like how beer tastes" is going too far

 

[Filip Chytil]

Maybe breaking Kakkos mind is the plan to unleash his full potential.

Kakko is like the guy in Dodgeball with the glasses. Was terrible, then got pissed off and turned into a tank

 

[will1066]

Mutiny is contagious

 

[bhamill]

I have to give Drury and the coaching staff credit. They’ve done a great job of ostracizing and pissing off not only the veterans, but younger players too!

Misery for all

Okay. THIS was funny.

You may be right, but he still has value as a 40-point winger. Why throw that away? Who are you replacing him with that is better and/or cheaper?

And as adept defensively...

 

[eco's bones]

Turned on the TV to watch a Rangers game. Instead all there was was a soap opera.

 

[jay from jersey]

I mean yeah maybe drury needs to change how hes doing business here a bit. I also get the feeling like he's fed up and has been fed up with some of the players on this team and he isn't taking kindly to "take the money and play like shit" that's come up. He sees that the team needs changes and the players resist that so he's using the tools he has to change it.
Dunno, honestly they all kinds seem like assholes and idiots.
Players need to do their f***in' job. Drury's shenanagans aren't something that should play out on the ice

This… I don’t see how a player can sign a high $$ multi-year deal here, then when they don’t produce or at least give an honest effort every game expect there to be no repercussions whatsoever…. It’s astonishing……
In the real world, if we can’t do our job there’s a line of people behind us……
Too many of our guys have a country club aww shucks mentality here right now….
That’s not good enough if you want to be a top earning pro athlete on an NY stage