Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[will1066]

Vaakanainen has the nice shaved look going.

It's the hanging on for dear life that's a bad look.

Stop attacking Joe

yeah Kaako ain't taking anymore crap

Also could mean he knows he's being shipped out so nothing to lose

 

[kovazub94]

Thats not how you conduct business. Especially if you are trying to rectify your own misstake.

Did Goodrow asked for less money when he negotiated his contract with the Rangers?

 

[GAGLine]

I'm onboard if they can sign him to an extension. Kakko is a bust and will never reach anywhere near his 2nd overall pick expectations. Is KK an NHL'er, yes, will he be an impactful one.....no. You can get guys like him anywhere, anytime moving forward. At least Jordan Greenway could provide some snarl with putting up almost the same points as KK.

Whether or not Kakko will reach his 2nd overall pick expectations is irrelevant. He's a good middle-6 player. In the right situation, he can score 60 points.

Tossing him aside because you are upset that he didn't reach his full potential seems pretty short-sighted.

 

[bhamill]

Because the waive was done purposely to be claimed by teams he won't waive his clause for. This wasn't to send Goodrow to the minors if nobody claimed him, they weren't going to eat 1million while spending another million on a call-up worse than Goodrow. When big contracts/bad contracts are on waivers, they typically pass because nobody wants them and then they stay on the NHL roster, they aren't used to facilitate a movement around one blocked by the player. From all reports, Goodrow was even willing to play fair, and Drury pulled this last minute on him. If you really think about it, what good is having a M-NTC if a team can just put you on waivers for a team on that list to claim you? You may as well just get rid of it and only allow NMC. It's 100% shady. Drury using what was available to him doesn't make it not shady.

Really? It wasn't done just to get him off the team when no one (eligible) would offer ANYTHING for him? They purposefully wanted to send him somewhere he didn't want to go? Come on. When a team waives a player in this situation it's not doing so to pick a destination for the player. That is out of their control. They are merely hoping someone ANYONE takes him off their hands. If Goodrow wanted complete autonomy over where he played, he should have had that stipulated in his contract. But he would have had to give to get, so he didn't. There was ZERO unfair about this. It was completely legal and in the spirit of the contract BOTH parties signed.
The NHLPA, agents and players ALL understand that NTCs, M-NTCs and NMC are different specific clauses that offer various levels of control. Goodrow COULD have negotiated for a NMC, likely giving up some salary, or could have signed with another team that was willing to offer a NMC. He did not. He and his agent are responsible for the deal that he willingly signed. He's not a victim. He was massively underperforming his contract and for NYR it was addition by subtraction. Totally within the team's rights, and totally above board.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

I legitimately think the room reacting poorly to a Lindgren scratch is under consideration. Lavi is afraid to further insult the players who have already quit on him. Maybe he "Maurice's" himself after Christmas.

Laviolette should tell the players to go bleep themselves. If they don't like Lindgren getting scratched, they can all get a real job for a living. Grow some balls.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Whether or not Kakko will reach his 2nd overall pick expectations is irrelevant. He's a good middle-6 player. In the right situation, he can score 60 points.

Tossing him aside because you are upset that he didn't reach his full potential seems pretty short-sighted.

@RangersFan1994

 

[kovazub94]

What Drury did with Goodrow and Trouba should be totally irrelevant in this discussion. If the players lose their shit over his actions and it shows on the ice, it's on those players to ask for a f***ing trade to a different setting.

Yup and play their asses off to entice a trade proposal from these different organizations.

 

[cheech70]

Stockholm Syndrome

 

[Ruggs225]

yeah Kaako ain't taking anymore crap

I f***ing love him now! Good for him.

 

[grachevsceiling]

Half the board are douchebags. D:

Give us your “memo” effen

 

[Captain Monglobster]

Maybe breaking Kakkos mind is the plan to unleash his full potential.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Love Kakko snapping back at Lavi for that bush league move. Good on him.

 

[MrAlmost]

Kakko ain't wrong. Bitch ass move to sit him for reasons when 3 guys should be sitting every game. (Kreider, Z and Lindgren)

 

[Machinehead]

Two other young guys are on our first line tonight. Just throwing that out there.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Look at the state of that hair

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Buffalo is such a No-Go this dudes hair is headed south without him.

 

[kovazub94]

Yes its their REAL job... that they were doing SO badly that getting rid of them was addition by subtraction. If a team is willing to waive you, to get nothing in return for you, just to get rid of you, maybe you should look in the mirror... You are doing your real job VERY badly.
And IMO, waiving someone, without something coming back of course, is NOT getting around a NTC. It's merely exercising the contractual right of the TEAM to waive/demote you for poor performance. No different from a player refusing a trade they contractually do not have to accept.

It’s like there was never a player who got waived because of salary / cap implications and here’s Drury being an evil trailblazer…

 

[cheech70]

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Lavi made that move because kakko is a quiet guy who he thought he could run the bus over without being contested. Good on Kakko for not standing for that bullshit

 

[kovazub94]

It is not about that. Tecnically Drury did nothing wrong but there is ways to conduct business respectfully that wont lead to the entire team quitting on you.

Reminds me of a scene from Pulp Fiction where Travolta needed a “please” and “thank you” from Mr Wolf.

 

[Ruggs225]

We lav had the last laugh. Ok kakko you are right. Now u play with Smith and Kreider.


Punishment is harsh.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

If you guys want Greenway for Kakko I cant take you seriously. What an awful trade.

I’d rather have Greenway than Krebs

 

[McRanger92]

Laviolette has shown he is more beholden to the overpaid core than Drury or the young players. That alone is a fireable offense. I think he's out once the team gets back to NY.

 

[Ruggs225]

The writing is 100% on the wall for Lavs now. And i think the vets are creating a bad room for the youth.

This is going to explode before the new year.


Lav has a choice. Bench vets and keep the youth (and maybe is his job) or go down with the vets.

 

[McRanger92]

Lavi patting himself on the back for scratching Reilly Smith who has played 30 games with NY and had a very successful career where he won a Cup (pretty recently) and was never scratched before. Time for a change.

 

[zlev]

Laviolette is done lol