Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Machinehead]

He's the one who thought Z was the #1, he could've flipped him, and if he really believe in Z maybe not handcuff himself to a full NMC throughout the contract or make the contract pretty much buyout proof. He was the one who constantly has to fix his own mistakes. He over paid for Reeves, then traded him for pennies. He was forced to give up 2nd round picks to get rid of Nemeth, which could've been used to bolster the lineup other places. Constantly gave up picks to fill the hole he created by getting nothing for Buch. He made the room sad but getting out of the Goodrow contract he handed out. Also, he paid Arizona a lot more than other teams have in the past to retain salary on the Kane deal. Not to say everything Drury has done has been bad, after the Buch deal he made some nice savvy cheap trades that worked out well, but if he didn't have to correct his mistakes the team would've been in a better position to either have prospect reinforcements coming, or use those picks to upgrade the roster.

Don't disagree with any of this.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Preds/Rangers Tuesday. I want Stamkos. He'd look great between Laf and Cuylle.

Panarin-Chytil-Berard
Laf-Stamkos-Cuylle

Stamkos has been garbage.
In what world is he even a minor upgrade.
Also he hasn’t been a functioning center in years.

 

[McRanger92]

100% agree, I'm not saying KK is untouchable, or that he has a future on this team. I'm just saying that if it's for a guy like Clifton that's a bad deal.

Pettersson? Maata? Both guys I would extend.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Don't disagree with any of this.

It’s a valid argument, but no GM bats 1.000

arguing that a gm should be flawless with understanding of how a player will age (some of these drop offs are insane) is asking more for a fortune teller than a general manager.

 

[Machinehead]

Preds/Rangers Tuesday. I want Stamkos. He'd look great between Laf and Cuylle.

Panarin-Chytil-Berard
Laf-Stamkos-Cuylle

Stamkos hadn't played center since President Jefferson signed the Louisiana Purchase.

It's a big reason Nashville sucks.

 

[McRanger92]

Stamkos has been garbage.
In what world is he even a minor upgrade.
Also he hasn’t been a functioning center in years.

Vibes. He's a winner and he's always been rumored here. Would be fun to see him play with our big wings. He's like Mika if he gave a f*** and could hit the net.

Stamkos hasn't played center since President Jefferson signed the Louisiana Purchase.

Nobody can defend anyway, might as well try to outscore everyone again.

 

[Siddi]

Bet?

I misread the post. Was not about Mika.

However, I will bet you that he finishes the year with 70+ points.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Dont get bogged down in the details. The Rangers should trade Kakko if they arent going to use him in the top 6, for a defenseman that can help stabilize that clusterf***.

Clifton isn’t that guy.

They need to rid themselves of bad players. Not replace their bad players with different bad players.

 

[Machinehead]

Nobody can defend anyway, might as well try to outscore everyone again.

Stamkos has 16 points in 31 games.

He cannot play center.

He hasn't been good at center since he scored 60 goals. That was in 2012.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

It’s a valid argument, but no GM bats 1.000

arguing that a gm should be flawless with understanding of how a player will age (some of these drop offs are insane) is asking more for a fortune teller than a general manager.

But why not include a fail-safe in the contract? How do you turn around and offer another player a similar contract?

I don't think anyone complained about the cap hit. It's what if the contract starts aging like milk out in the New Mexico dessert.

Now it's aging like a dead goat in Death Valley.

 

[McRanger92]

Stamkos has 16 points in 31 games.

He cannot play center.

He hasn't been good at center since he scored 60 goals. That was in 2012.

Play laf or cuylle at center than. They can do it.

 

[tlk]

Play laf or cuylle at center than. They can do it.

Lol no.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

I misread the post. Was not about Mika.

However, I will bet you that he finishes the year with 70+ points.

What's the wager?

 

[McRanger92]

Lol no.

Why not? Even that oaf Kakko looked capable at center

 

[Machinehead]

Play laf or cuylle at center than. They can do it.

I feel like you're putting square pegs into round holes to satisfy a Stamkos boner.

That time has come and gone.

 

[Siddi]

What's the wager?

Player jersey?

 

[McRanger92]

I feel like you're putting square pegs into round holes to satisfy a Stamkos boner.

That time has come and gone.

Along with better defenseman the team needs a veteran leader in the top 6. There is a reason Drury is poking around JT Miller and Brady Tkachuk. Id love to buy low on Dylan Cozens if Buffalo wants out of that contract. Stamkos just seems like the most attainable right now.

I still think laf and Cuylle should get reps at center regardless

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Player jersey?

I have to buy a Mika jersey if he gets 70? And you?

 

[tlk]

Why not? Even that oaf Kakko looked capable at center

I beg to differ... Considering what playing centre requires..

I'd be happy with the axis of a Peak Ziba as 1C, Healthy Chyt at 2C and a Sam Bennet at 3C.

Now tho I dunno.

 

[McRanger92]

I beg to differ... Considering what playing centre requires..

I'd be happy with the axis of a Peak Ziba as 1C, Healthy Chyt at 2C and a Sam Bennet at 3C.

Now tho I dunno.

I like Sam Bennett. And I really like top line minutes for Chytil. He's earned it. More PP time is more time he can handle the puck in open ice without fear of being hit. Play to the strengths of your players.

 

[Machinehead]

Along with better defenseman the team needs a veteran leader in the top 6. There is a reason Drury is poking around JT Miller and Brady Tkachuk. Id love to buy low on Dylan Cozens if Buffalo wants out of that contract. Stamkos just seems like the most attainable right now.

I still think laf and Cuylle should get reps at center regardless

That's all fine and dandy, I just need you to put him at the position he actually plays.

I can't imagine why you'd want Cuylle or Laf playing a completely new position when they've been doing just fine at the positions they're in.

 

[Mike in Houston]

PP1
Kreider
Cuylle
Chytil
Fox
Panarin

PP2
Trocheck
Jones
Lafreniere
Mika
Kakko

 

[IDvsEGO]

Along with better defenseman the team needs a veteran leader in the top 6. There is a reason Drury is poking around JT Miller and Brady Tkachuk. Id love to buy low on Dylan Cozens if Buffalo wants out of that contract. Stamkos just seems like the most attainable right now.

I still think laf and Cuylle should get reps at center regardless

In what world is stamkos a buy low candidate.
There’s zero indication that he’s capable of bouncing back.

And you’re comparing him to 23 year old Dylan cozens.
I agree with a buy low on cozens. But stamkos would be “rangers spend on old vet who can’t play anymore for role that requires youth”

 

[RangerBoy]

Go find the next Sam Bennett.

 

[LionsHeart]

Trading for an over the hill Stamkos would be some Dark Ages shit.