Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Shesterkybomb]

Yeah I don’t think it’s unreasonable to move players first and then find a new coach. I wouldn’t necessarily go hire a new coach and bring him in if I was going to immediately start moving out the veteran group of players. That’s not a good spot for any coach to walk in to and it’s not really fair to them.

I’m looking squarely at Kakko, Kreider and Smith.

Problem is you can't trade your way out of this, the culture and the style of play needs to change and it starts with the coach. I don't think Dolan has the patience for another tear down so it's likely a couple of trades and a coach, not a bunch of trades for draft picks and prospects.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Caps have been very good this season. Brian MacLellan had a good summer. Trading Kuemper for PLD who is having a good season after being awful in LA. Jensen and 3rd to Ottawa for Chychrun who is also having a good season. He is just happy to be playing for a winning team. Signing Roy as a free agent. 3rd round pick for Logan Thompson who is also having a good season. Some of their young guys like Protas and McMichael have taken that next step. I love Protas. He is a beast of a man. McMichael has 15 goals. Fifteen!!!! If Kakko had 15 goals. We would be planning a parade down the Canyon of Heroes. Tom Wilson is having a great season. Love that guy. Wiish he played for the Rangers. Ryan Leonard will be joining them next season. Another stud. Spencer Carbery seems like a very good coach. They moved on from Laviolette and hired a young guy. Carbery would have probably failed here with the egos on this team. The Rangers always hire the big name experienced coach. The Caps trade picks for players who play on their team for longer than two months. What a novel concept!!!!

First place in the East. OV should be back after Christmas.

 

[RangerBoy]

Problem is you can't trade your way out of this, the culture and the style of play needs to change and it starts with the coach. I don't think Dolan has the patience for another tear down so it's likely a couple of trades and a coach, not a bunch of trades for draft picks and prospects.

Wrong my friend. Some of the players have big egos. How does the style of play change when the players are uncoachable? How many times have the Rangers changed the coach? The Rangers need to blow it all up. New core group. New coach. These players are the bigger problem.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Problem is you can't trade your way out of this, the culture and the style of play needs to change and it starts with the coach. I don't think Dolan has the patience for another tear down so it's likely a couple of trades and a coach, not a bunch of trades for draft picks and prospects.

It starts with James Dolan.

1) As soon as a player signs a contract to play with this team, he's given the best of everything. The best practice facilities. The best charter flights. The best hotel rooms. The best food. It breeds entitlement.

2) Dolan doesn't give a shit about winning a cup. He wants playoff revenue. If a genie offered him the choice between a decade of 2nd round exits or 2 cups and 8 years of no playoffs, which do you think he would choose?

 

[mas0764]

It starts with James Dolan.

1) As soon as a player signs a contract to play with this team, he's given the best of everything. The best practice facilities. The best charter flights. The best hotel rooms. The best food. It breeds entitlement.

2) Dolan doesn't give a shit about winning a cup. He wants playoff revenue. If a genie offered him the choice between a decade of 2nd round exits or 2 cups and 8 years of no playoffs, which do you think he would choose?

Yeah point 2 is a real problem for this franchise and the fan base takes its cue and follows along.

No commitment to building a winner means a winner is never built and the fans slop up the ruse under the lie that “just get in and we can win,” which is of course untrue.

 

[Fitzy]

Yeah point 2 is a real problem for this franchise and the fan base takes its cue and follows along.

No commitment to building a winner means a winner is never built and the fans slop up the ruse under the lie that “just get in and we can win,” which is of course untrue.

It's not completely untrue, it's just that the odds start to look a lot like the draft lottery odds the lower down the list of quality playoff teams you go.

So there's a natural appeal to want the 1/100 miracle shot, but that genuinely means 1 cup in 100 playoff years, so it's probably not something worth aspiring towards

 

[cheech70]

It starts with James Dolan.

1) As soon as a player signs a contract to play with this team, he's given the best of everything. The best practice facilities. The best charter flights. The best hotel rooms. The best food. It breeds entitlement.

2) Dolan doesn't give a shit about winning a cup. He wants playoff revenue. If a genie offered him the choice between a decade of 2nd round exits or 2 cups and 8 years of no playoffs, which do you think he would choose?

So true..8 million per playoff games sans league cash...just gate and concessions..8 home games x 8 milion...64 million x 30% profit............ 20 million net net.....which he now needs for the Sphere

 

[leetch99]

Drury is such a coward.

Fits the description of most of our team almost every game .