Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Clark Kellogg]

I don't think Engvall is being claimed, so it wouldn't be 3 million there. It would just be the bury limit.

You’re correct, wasn’t thinking one-way contract.
Looked up terms:
If the Islanders buy out Engvall's contract, they would be responsible for a $1 million cap hit annually through 2035.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Just wanted to make sure - probably over 90% would disagree with your take that a journeyman defenseman who'd often would not find a permanent spot in a line-up of multiple organizations - nevermind on a top pair - would be the piece to put with Fox and expect to be a SC finalist top pairing.

Not that I have an opinion about Gus specifically, but didn't we just watch this happen with Forsling? Or with Stralman here? Or Kempny in Washnighton when they won?

Honestly, it seems like this is actually something common to successful franchises more than exceptional.

 

[kovazub94]

Not that I have an opinion about Gus specifically, but didn't we just watch this happen with Forsling? Or with Stralman here? Or Kempny in Washnighton when they won?

Honestly, it seems like this is actually something common to successful franchises more than exceptional.

Doesn't bother you that he's 32 yo or that examples that you list are single digit successes among hundreds of failed experiments?

 

[DanielBrassard]

What about trying to pry Tony out of the KHL to add a PMD to play on the third pair?

This is absolutely the best idea in the thread

 

[grachevsceiling]

I’m not sure you’d need to “pry” Tony away. He’d probably skate here from St. Petersburg.

 

[TominNC]

This is absolutely the best idea in the thread

Must be joking. We don’t need more shitty defensive players

 

[leetch99]

Yeah if Jimmy Vesey scored 600 goals you would say "gee, in retrospect..."

He's an atrocious comp to Perreault as a prospect.

Maybe so ...but that might be all he ever becomes . Time will tell .

 

[RangersFan1994]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

 

[Uglybstrd]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

Naahhh... I wouldnt.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

The Rangers don’t claim players on waivers when will people get it

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

Lmao...NO.

 

[bernmeister]

This is absolutely the best idea in the thread

hell no do not want

go forward peeps not backwards

 

[GAGLine]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

Who are you taking out to play him? You know it won't be a vet and playing him on the 4th line seems pointless. So, then it's Berard or Kakko, and I wouldn't scratch either one for a one-skill forward who hasn't shown he can employ that one skill at the NHL level.

 

[zlev]

now is when we need someone to waive the next Gustav Forsling

 

[bernmeister]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

no
1 dimensional, shooter who can't shoot

 

[Ruggs225]

I dont understand why we disnt put a claim in for Dermott. Minn claimed him.

We have no defensive depth and now an injury.

Silly drury

 

[TheDirtyH]

Doesn't bother you that he's 32 yo or that examples that you list are single digit successes among hundreds of failed experiments?

Think the very first words of my post were "Not that I have an opinion about Gus specifically."

Those were just three off the top of my head. But I'm pretty sure Florida's entire blueline was from the trash heap. As was a good portion of their top-6. Vegas went to the final with a blueline full of spare parts in their first season. That was the same year Kempny got put on a cup-winning top pair. Tampa put Jan Rutta with Hedman. He didn't even make the NHL until he was 27. Pittsburgh won two cups with Justin Schultz playing key minutes. They got him for a 3rd, he was in the midst of a -22 season and Edmonton (!) couldn't even find a use for him anymore. I mean this is literally just me casually, quickly parsing like the last handful of cup finalists.

And as far as the hundreds of failed experiments for every handful of successes. I'm skeptical about that ratio that you're obviously just making up, and I'm also not sure I understand how that ratio is meaningfully different than any "experiment" as far as bringing in new players to a team. Like how many times have we seen what is an obvious, can't miss addition just absolutely faceplant?

Just on our own stupid blueline? Shattenkirk? TROUBA (jfk)???? Ironically, this one guy you're talking about actually worked out for us once.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I was playing around on PuckPedia just having a little fun with 25-26 at a 92.5M cap.

Traded Kakko for Byram, signed Byram 5x4.85
Traded Kreider, Miller, 2027 5th to NSH for Lauzon, Jankowski, Svechkov, 2026 1st, 2027 2nd
Traded Zibanejad for JT Miller

Signed Rantanen 7x12.85M
Perreault 3x950K
Garand 2x850K
Edstrom 1x925K
Rempe 2x800K
Cuylle 2x2.5M
Jones 1x1.35M

Fortescue, Laba, Kempf get ELCs
Boyko bridged on a 2way

$757K in cap space

Panarin Miller Rantanen
Cuylle Trocheck Lafreniere
Berard Chytil Perreault
Edstrom Jankowski Carrick
Rempe

Byram Fox
Jones Schneider
Lauzon Mancini
Mackey

Igor
Garand

Bc why not

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Gustafson isn't an answer to any question we have.

Anyone got a card on Desharnais in vancouver, apparently he's available, from reports he's been disappointing there, he had some good nights in edmonton along with some not so good ones lol. Only dman I'm hearing available right now

 

[LOFIN]

I’m not sure you’d need to “pry” Tony away. He’d probably skate here from St. Petersburg.

Who knows, maybe he actually enjoys being there because Russia is so based (on his mind).

 

[Mandar]

Should the Rangers take a chance and claim Wahlstrom from the Islanders?

You ALWAYS want to claim any piece of shit player that goes on waivers

 

[LOFIN]

Engvall is signed for 5 more years after this one at 3 mill per season.

Ya’ll are on crack if you think that’s even remotely a good idea.

Yeah please God no. Even the stubborn idiot Lou is trying to get rid of his own mistake this fast.

 

[Kravtsov420]

The last page was full of dog water takes.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

isnt wahlstrom basically Othmann? Good at nothing but shooting

 

[Hire Sather]

You ALWAYS want to claim any piece of shit player that goes on waivers

For 20+ years.