Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIV: There ain't no gettin' off of this train we're on

[Vinny DeAngelo]

He is one of many examples why regular season point productivity is not the be all end all for building a good hockey team.

And multiple people have called mcdonagh their worst defenseman. It’s full blown chaos over there. Very fun read

 

[Fitzy]

And multiple people have called mcdonagh their worst defenseman. It’s full blown chaos over there. Very fun read

Having watched the series, I disagree with them. But yeah that's what happens on a board after blowing a series lead. They all were struggling, including Stralman who seems to be losing a step/or injured.

 

[RangerBoy]

Elliotte Friedman believes/his intuition Lou Lamoriello has told JT that he will get Kovalchuk as part of their pitch to keep him. They can get Kovalchuk.

Latest 31 Thoughts podcast.

 

[RangerBoy]

If Lou is going for it,Kieffer Bellows is a David Quinn recruit. He would fit the Rangers plan. Bellows left BU after his freshman season for the WHL. Gorton traded with the Devils. He isn’t afraid to make a trade.

 

[NYR Viper]

Jut heard on XM which I didn't realize, Shatenkirk played for Quinn?

 

[Griffinbw]

Jut heard on XM which I didn't realize, Shatenkirk played for Quinn?

Quinn was an assistant at BU when Shattenkirk played there

 

[Nopuckluck]

There is still a difference between being good at hockey and not being Tanner Glass.

Wilson is closer to the latter than the former.

What you want is a Wayne Simmonds type player. Someone who is actually good at hockey.

Wilson is good at hockey

 

[RangerBoy]

Friedman said he thinks the Rangers will be conservative in their moves this summer. Long way rebuild. He could see them bringing back Nash or Grabner at a lower number. The Rangers need to find out if some of their guys can play.

Nash or Grabner were terrible for their new teams. Time to turn the page.

 

[Thirty One]

Friedman said he thinks the Rangers will be conservative in their moves this summer. Long way rebuild. He could see them bringing back Nash or Grabner at a lower number. The Rangers need to find out if some of their guys can play.

Nash or Grabner were terrible for their new teams. Time to turn the page.

Or time to buy low.

 

[Fvital92]

Friedman said he thinks the Rangers will be conservative in their moves this summer. Long way rebuild. He could see them bringing back Nash or Grabner at a lower number. The Rangers need to find out if some of their guys can play.

Nash or Grabner were terrible for their new teams. Time to turn the page.

Please, no. Why the f*** we need Nash and Grabner? Just play the kids, I guess if we trade Zuccarello and don't sign Kovalchuck one of them would be fine, but even so... That ship has sailed for me.

 

[Thirty One]

Please, no. Why the **** we need Nash and Grabner? Just play the kids, I guess if we trade Zuccarello and don't sign Kovalchuck one of them would be fine, but even so... That ship has sailed for me.

Which kids should we be playing that Nash and Grabner would block?

 

[silverfish]

Which kids should we be playing that Nash and Grabner would block?

Gropp!

 

[Thirty One]

Gropp!

I have seen the error of my ways.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Or time to buy low.

Or close the book altogether.

 

[Off Sides]

Which kids should we be playing that Nash and Grabner would block?

How would we know until they play? If this season went a little better do we see Pionk or ADA at the end of the year?

Not that I am saying they are the best players ever or any of them will ultimately work out but the Rangers have 7 forwards signed for next year, 5 of which we would assume are playing if not traded, they have 4 RFA F who if re-signed and not moved will also be assumed to make the team, so like 9 forwards already. Add in Chytil, Lias if they make the jump to NHL regulars and they are at 11 forwards. The 12th of course being the re-signing of Mcleod.

 

[Edge]

I'm not concerned about Nash and Grabner blocking anyone.

I am just ready to move on, form a new identity and see who emerges as the next generation of leaders.

It's just time.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Please, no. Why the **** we need Nash and Grabner? Just play the kids, I guess if we trade Zuccarello and don't sign Kovalchuck one of them would be fine, but even so... That ship has sailed for me.

If you can sign Nash at a fair cap hit for 2 years, you absolutely do it. He would be a tremendous veteran to have around.

His reputation is built on playing the right way and being the consummate professional and treating his career as seriously as it needs to be. He'd be a very good (be example) leader during this transition.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I don’t want Grabner back under a new coach. AVs home run or bust system is why he racked up all his points.

 

[Edge]

I feel like we drift into the territory of the guy who can't move on from his ex and uses the line, "So you're saying there's a chance?"

 

[Fvital92]

Which kids should we be playing that Nash and Grabner would block?

Lettieri, Chytil, Andersson, Nieves. We have Spooner and Namestnikov, our players right now are KZB ,Zucc, Hayes, Spooner, Namestnikov, Chytil, Fast,Vesey, Andersson.
Do you think Rick Nash won't be a 17 min per game player in this team? Give the ice time for young kids.
I'm over the "Rick Nash looks awesome but is snakebitten" phase.

 

[Thirty One]

How would we know until they play? If this season went a little better do we see Pionk or ADA at the end of the year?

Not that I am saying they are the best players ever or any of them will ultimately work out but the Rangers have 7 forwards signed for next year, 5 of which we would assume are playing if not traded, they have 4 RFA F who if re-signed and not moved will also be assumed to make the team, so like 9 forwards already. Add in Chytil, Lias if they make the jump to NHL regulars and they are at 11 forwards. The 12th of course being the re-signing of Mcleod.

There are many ways to know that players are unlikely to be NHL players without seeing them fail at the NHL level. Do you think there are forwards in the system at the level of Pionk or DeAngelo even?

I'm on team trade some of the group Zuccarello, Spooner and Vladdy for young assets. Replace them with free agent contracts that are designed to be tradeable (for young assets) if next season goes the same as the last one.

 

[Fvital92]

If you can sign Nash at a fair cap hit for 2 years, you absolutely do it. He would be a tremendous veteran to have around.

His reputation is built on playing the right way and being the consummate professional and treating his career as seriously as it needs to be. He'd be a very good (be example) leader during this transition.

He would demand too much ice time for my likining. We have Lundqvist, Staal, Shattenkirk, it's not like we ice a bunch of punks that don't know how to be a pro.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

No one has any idea what the Rangers are going to do with 10 picks in the first 93 and 30M of cap space or so.. no one has any direction what Gorton will go in. The Rangers weren't good last year they weren't making the playoffs, Nash and Grabner were going regardless and Mcdonagh wasnt that confusing either he had one year left on his deal and is going to be 30 and not the same player anymore.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

No one has any idea what the Rangers are going to do with 10 picks in the first 93 and 30M of cap space or so.. no one has any direction what Gorton will go in. The Rangers weren't good last year they weren't making the playoffs, Nash and Grabner were going regardless and Mcdonagh wasnt that confusing either he had one year left on his deal and is going to be 30 and not the same player anymore.

Hey, I'm looking forward to the coming draft (and would love to acquire even more picks) also, but just to be clear, as of now they still only have 8 of the top 101 picks.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

He would demand too much ice time for my likining. We have Lundqvist, Staal, Shattenkirk, it's not like we ice a bunch of punks that don't know how to be a pro.

Idk, I think Nash could be beneficial for the young forwards especially Chytil and Andersson.