Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[The Crypto Guy]

Kakko in a deal for the right player makes sense .

Ottawa stinks so target Batherson . They want to shake things up

They could use Trouba . Some teams would like his toughness but with retention

No it doesnt. He finally seems to be breaking out and now might be converted into a center. With Chytil likely not going to be in our long term plans we need a center.

 

[Lion Hound]

I agree to some extent but the term might also be an issue and more than that the teams willing to take him will more than likely be the same teams that are less desirable. Would take a “perfect fit” scenario, and that’s before even talking about assets coming back and how they fit the rangers org, etc. Definitely possible, but that’s a difficult trade to make.

I remember Brian Burke speaking about it a few years ago. Basically how hard it was to make a trade work for the financial aspects of it. He said lots of deals fall through not due to the player but for the cap portion.

The roster needs to change for sure but firing Lav would be a huge win

Has anyone done the research on how Lavi produced for his clubs in the past in year 2, 3 or 4?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The team needs to do something, sitting on their hands will not accomplish anything.

 

[mike14]

No it doesnt. He finally seems to be breaking out and now might be converted into a center. With Chytil likely not going to be in our long term plans we need a center.

It'd need to be a quality for quality trade, but KK is one of the pieces we have that may actually return a decent D-man that we are desperate for. So while i doubt the Rangers want to get ride of him based on his improved play, they might think they need to bite the bullet as we can cover a lost winger easier and we really need that defensive overhaul.
Absolutely a trade that could haunt a GM (and a fan base) though

Somehow, we need to turn our junk, and a good piece or 2 into multiple d-men, and some centers both for immediate help and prospects with upside. Not a fun or easy task

 

[TGWL]

So you assume we will receive nothing in return for Kreider, Lindgren, Shesterkin? Mika Trouba I’m sure it would cost us to move them

How is that even remotely close to what I said?

 

[mxyxptlk]

Has anyone done the research on how Lavi produced for his clubs in the past in year 2, 3 or 4?

His second full season has not been as good as his first....however, the drop off isn't as considerable as I was led to believe:

NYI
Year 1 -- 42-28-8-4 (96 pts)
Year 2 -- 35-34-11-2 (83 pts)

Car
Year 1 -- 52-22-8 (112 pts)
Year 2 -- 40-34-8 (99pts)

Phi
Year 1 -- 47-23-23 (106 pts)
Year 2 -- 47-26-9 (103 pts)

Nsh
Year 1 -- 47-25-10 (104 pts)
Year 2 -- 41-27-14 (96 pts)

Wsh
Year 1 -- 44-26-12 (100 pts)
Year 2 -- 35-37-10 (80 pts)

Note -- I only used his first two full seasons. He coached less than 60 games in his first season with Car, Phi and Was.

(all info found here: Peter Laviolette - Wikipedia)

 

[mxyxptlk]

The team needs to do something, sitting on their hands will not accomplish anything.

After recent events, anything we do will only fall into the "doing something just to do something" category....thanks to that damn league memo, you would be lucky to get 2 cents on a dollar for anyone....any offers we receive will be way below normal market value -- some probably downright insulting. And there's not much that can be done internally.

 

[Lion Hound]

His second full season has not been as good as his first....however, the drop off isn't as considerable as I was led to believe:

NYI
Year 1 -- 42-28-8-4 (96 pts)
Year 2 -- 35-34-11-2 (83 pts)

Car
Year 1 -- 52-22-8 (112 pts)
Year 2 -- 40-34-8 (99pts)

Phi
Year 1 -- 47-23-23 (106 pts)
Year 2 -- 47-26-9 (103 pts)

Nsh
Year 1 -- 47-25-10 (104 pts)
Year 2 -- 41-27-14 (96 pts)

Wsh
Year 1 -- 44-26-12 (100 pts)
Year 2 -- 35-37-10 (80 pts)

Note -- I only used his first two full seasons. He coached less than 60 games in his first season with Car, Phi and Was.

(all info found here: Peter Laviolette - Wikipedia)

Damn! Thats very telling.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Facebook memory just popped up from 15 years ago, pretty amazing how I have the same feelings now, just sub for Fox, Laf, Cuylle, Schneids, Edstrom, Chytil.

 

[pld459666]

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Well shit I didnt even consider than angle. Wow that is something.

Shut him down for the rest of the season. LTIR tjat fvker

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I suspect Kakko is going to be used to make a shake up deal. Which kind of sucks cause I like him

 

[RangerBoy]

Jeff Marek on the Sabres

“Everything’s on the line in that organization. It’s not exactly a secret,” he said “The players feel that, the players know it, behind closed doors the players talk about it. Everybody knows what is at stake with the Buffalo Sabres. Dylan Cozens has had a really rough season. Jack Quinn has had a rough start as well. You guys were mentioning Bowen Byram, and he may just end up killing them in arbitration if he’s still with the Sabres and it gets there. The name Owen Power has been whispered out there as well.”

Jeff Marek dishes on the Oilers’ hesitancy to overpay right now and the Sabres as a potential trade partner

Daily Faceoff's Jeff Marek believes the Edmonton Oilers have yet to ma...

oilersnation.com

 

[Synergy27]

I suspect Kakko is going to be used to make a shake up deal. Which kind of sucks cause I like him

He’s getting traded for Zegras.

 

[mxyxptlk]

He’s getting traded for Zegras.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

 

[duhmetreE]

He's the undisputed best goalie in the NHL, he is worth way more than Gulyayev (who though I'm a big fan of, he hasn't been producing any more this year than last year). I could see Nikishin, though he's having a down year as well; I would want Svechnikov coming back instead.

he is probably the best goalie in the NHL but that’s just way too much cap space with all the holes we have

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Facebook memory just popped up from 15 years ago, pretty amazing how I have the same feelings now, just sub for Fox, Laf, Cuylle, Schneids, Edstrom, Chytil.

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Bro I hated Prospal

 

[duhmetreE]

I suspect Kakko is going to be used to make a shake up deal. Which kind of sucks cause I like him

That would be one of the dumbest thing drury can do

 

[Mac n Gs]

The Kakko thing is from other GMs trying to get him, not Drury shopping him. It’s the same thing with Byram and the Sabres. Of course other teams are gonna want the good, young player.

They’re in a tough spot being locked in to some of these contracts, and Gorton’s efforts to bridge a mini rebuild with big signings/trades hasn’t worked. The young guys are still hitting dips in their learning curves, and the vets are aging out of their usefulness. The main thing that Drury needs to do is keep the cap sheet clean and not lock himself in to bad value deals.

I’m skeptical that anything will come of this whole hullabaloo, so let’s hope they find a way to unify and work through it. That being said, I did say that I set the o/u at 1.5 years for Drury being fired after the Laviolette hire, and I’m kind of liking my prediction there

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Jeff Marek on the Sabres

Jeff Marek dishes on the Oilers’ hesitancy to overpay right now and the Sabres as a potential trade partner

Daily Faceoff's Jeff Marek believes the Edmonton Oilers have yet to ma...

oilersnation.com

Owen Power would be an interesting piece

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

He’s getting traded for Zegras.

I like Zegras but that does nothing for the team lol

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I would love to see Zegras on a less dysfunctional team. Remember how popular he was here during the draft?

 

[bernmeister]

this is bitter but nec medicine that unloads zib, we can hope../

just heard Hronek out long term, so this is my prop which I put at the main board:

I had posted something at the Rs trade board re jt miller + for zib +++

now the Hronek injury creates a real urgency and a new dynamic

as we know, JT Miller is taking time off despite being productive and supposedly it is b'c he is at odds w/Elias Petterssen
Zib has lost it; not sure if it is concussions or what but he once had chemistry w/Kreider and it is now invisible
the thinking is if Swedes EP and Mika Z played together, it could work out and given this + VAN is a legit cup contender, MZ would waive

there is risk with either or 2 primary pieces, similarly priced 8.5 MZ and 8 per JTM.

there is more risk for VAN than NY so Rs have to compensate

RD Schneider is normally not available
howev, getting Miller for Zib, full pop both ways, and other benefits would be enuf to do this

Zib + Schneider + Jones (good skater upgrade on Erik B) + Vesey
for
Miller + Raty + Juulsen + a pick

thoughts?

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this hurts but also we don't retain on zib here, so....

 

[lakeshirts37]

Both Eichel and McDavid are UFAs in the summer of 26. Coincidentally, Panarin is a UFA the same year, and with the cap rising significantly over the next 2 years, we will have plenty of money.

Signing one of them would help significantly. The problem will be Mika. We'll have to get creative to move him.

Yup could be very interesting if we play our cards right

The further this drags along the more I'm apt to packaging Igor to some team that wants to pay him. I like the guy and he's a great goalie (especially in the playoffs) but the 8 x 11 rejection has rubbed me wrong way from the get go. I get his position, but I also think the Rangers put their best foot forward in making him the highest paid goalie in the league, nay, of all time and should leave that offer on the table.

If something comes along where you can trade him for a good, not great, NHL goalie plus a young asset then I'm all over that. Hasek in his prime couldn't cover up for the atrociousness that has been the Rangers 5v5 play for the last year+.

I think it has rubbed a lot of the locker room the wrong way too

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

this is bitter but nec medicine that unloads zib, we can hope../

just heard Hronek out long term, so this is my prop which I put at the main board:

I had posted something at the Rs trade board re jt miller + for zib +++

now the Hronek injury creates a real urgency and a new dynamic

as we know, JT Miller is taking time off despite being productive and supposedly it is b'c he is at odds w/Elias Petterssen
Zib has lost it; not sure if it is concussions or what but he once had chemistry w/Kreider and it is now invisible
the thinking is if Swedes EP and Mika Z played together, it could work out and given this + VAN is a legit cup contender, MZ would waive

there is risk with either or 2 primary pieces, similarly priced 8.5 MZ and 8 per JTM.

there is more risk for VAN than NY so Rs have to compensate

RD Schneider is normally not available
howev, getting Miller for Zib, full pop both ways, and other benefits would be enuf to do this

Zib + Schneider + Jones (good skater upgrade on Erik B) + Vesey
for
Miller + Raty + Juulsen + a pick

thoughts?

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this hurts but also we don't retain on zib here, so....

So you want to make the defense even worse? Bold strategy Cotton

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Drury scouting for his next Blais I’m sure