Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)
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Shesterkybomb
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Personally I dont care as much about Igor's number as I do about what the trade protection is. I absolutely don't want a ntc for the whole contract, and at the least his final 3 or 4 years should have a minimum of 16 teams we can trade him to if need be. My biggest issue is that I feel Garand will be a solid nhl goalie, maybe not at Igors current level but could he be better in 4 years as their trajectory intersects? Possibly, and if that's the case you'd ship Igor out at that point and ride the cheaper guy
Synergy27
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Same reaction. How f***ing lazy. “People tell me”. “Everyone is saying”. That’s embarrassing for a “journalist”.
egelband
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Were the decision between Rempe getting 11 mins/game on the third line in the AHL and Rempe getting 3 mins/game in the NHL I think I’d prefer the latter.
But it appears Rempe is actually getting big minutes in various situations with Hartford so I’m happy with that. Think we’ll see him up and playing a more consequential role in after the new year.
has he actually improved at all? Because him seeing minutes and him improving are very very separate things.
egelband
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He had a goal and an assist and seven shots in his last game. Obviously a small sample size but either way, if he does have an nhl skillset, giving him big minutes in the ahl seems to be a reasonanle way to get him there.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Boris Zubov
No relation to Sergei, Joe
And we still aren't winning a cup with this team. We can not win the cup without him & his 12 million next year.
KirkAlbuquerque
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our only hope is Igor realizing this and refusing to sign.
Want him to get mo mins not less, but he will still learn more here than in the A.
But thanks for the positive vibe.
Again, he needs to already be here and ready for the POs
The Panthers are not going to disappear, and we need whatever size we can muster for that
Shesterkybomb
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Cap is gonna climb, 4 years time it's like 9 mill, and if not you retain a little bit if necessary. Teams every year are looking for a goalie, they'll make room for him if they need one, especially if it's only for 3 years.
For arguments sake, Vancouver right now. Demko looks like he is a question mark, do you think they'd find a way to add Shesterkin now? I do, maybe someone takes demkos contract for a pick and they make some cap space up to get him in the fold for 3 years of cup runs. There's always teams looking for high end players.
Another scenario, would you trade a package that surrounded Shesterkin and Petersson in vancouver and run Quick and Garand right now? Then trade Zibanejad in a package for a true top 4 ld. Is the team better then? I'd argue it is. I love Shesterkin but his contract along with everything else we have going on is gonna make it hard for us to get better than we currently are.
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RempireStateBuilding
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His last game vs. the mini-Bruins was really good by any standard. Rempe was on the PP and the PK and generated some great chances by himself on more than a handful of instances. There were a couple wtf moments but those were outweighed by the rest of his play. He had a goal and an assist and was 1st star of the game. I haven't been able to catch a Pack game outside of that though so I can't speak to more of his AHL time other than one game.
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In NHL terms yeah---giving $12 million to anybody doing anything or even nothing at all kind of goes against the grain for me. In the end here though it's one guy getting very very rich vs. some fabulously wealthy individual reaping in even more just from owning the team and I'd rather not take sides other than I know the team that I'm a fan of are better off with a great goalie than worry at all about whatever plutocrat happens to own the team at the moment. I'm certainly not into pinching pennies to let an elite player walk. Who are we going to replace him with?
1. we need to shed vets/high salary to extend our window, not fall victim to trap of all in/win now, then you come up short and run the same shit following season 1 yr older. Keep/improve young core, tinker or better as opportunity emerges.
2. In that context Shesty goes, period.
He either goes now if there is enuf on the table, or we extend him 12.2 x 5 [gives him bragging rights + room for 1 more big payday] BUT he accepts ntcs but no nmc].
What is enuf now depends on pieces involved, and we don't have to let him go for nothing.
But we should also remember the Cam Talbot fiasco where Slats, not listening to bern, waited til the last minute, bid vs himself, painted us in a corner and we got below min for him.
3. As to EP/Shesty as a core, he is 8 seasons at 11.6.
Granted he is a pivot which helps short term.
And this guy is on the block for a reason. As is Demko
I'd say while big picture is shed cap -> room for mo better youth, short snapshot could be:
Shesty + Zib + Vesey + Lindgren [expiring, max half retained to 2.25]
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EP [1.6 retained to an even 10 per] + Demko + Juulsen + Ratu
this works on assumption Zib sees handwriting on the wall, and figures VAN is solid cup contender 4-ish yrs, and that's enuf, [which it may/may not be]
VAN of course has permission to work out ext w/Igor before, effective upon trade completed
this would give us Demko as a project we can flip after
we would be moving on from Zib at 8.5 to EP at 10, which could backfire but that risk here is acceptable
Ratu [Chytil to LTIR til 111%] + Juulsen replacing Lindy help now
and Vesey buh bye makes room for Rempe
'nucks get best G in the league next 5-sih yrs, they are happy enuf camper
yes, as I've said, accept the growing pains
imo Garand is doable now
make co-starter for more and easier mins, phase him in on harder stuff
Domingue as needed to reinforce
thanks for posting this
like 've said,
while there is always some benefit to increased practice anywhere
Rempe is not best served in the A, but getting reg 4th line mins here, w/supervised tutoring on specialty skating and tip ins,.
accept the growing pains
We MUST be better physically to get past FL
Vesey is not that, Rempe is
accept that reality peeps
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If we can upgrade the team by trading pretty much ANY player you do it. That can go without saying. What I AM saying is we won’t be looking to dump him.
refuse to sign? Shesty has the Rangers by the balls. He knows the org must have a Star to market. Bread is waning, the cap is going to go up and Drury will fold like a cheap chair because he is deathly afraid of monumental decisions. Shesty will laugh all the way to the bank, then in a few years he will make noises about wanting to win the cup while the Rangers are in exactly the same place they are now. Not good enough to win, but better than most of the league. The Hopium crowd will keep buying in year in year out.
Machinehead
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He's right.
He's asking for 3-4 million more than Hellebuyck.
If he wants to be paid like demonstrably the best goalie in the league, he needs to be that.
SA16
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Or the first overall pick with a small nasty streak who’s one of the most clutch players we’ve ever had?
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Our most marketable player is centering the second line in Hartford.
