Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[DevilDog99]

12 million... and he is worth every Steve Penny of it . Without him we are fodder for the wolves . I can live with either decision[but nothing half assed....trade all the dummies overpaid and play kids ] but I prefer to resign him . The kid route would take some time and there is nothing assured with our drafting/coaching/GM fellows getting it right ...they likely blow it and soon we are at one cup in 100 years.....some legacy for an original 6 club to have .

Glad i don’t have some of you guys doing my investments… sheesh

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Personally I dont care as much about Igor's number as I do about what the trade protection is. I absolutely don't want a ntc for the whole contract, and at the least his final 3 or 4 years should have a minimum of 16 teams we can trade him to if need be. My biggest issue is that I feel Garand will be a solid nhl goalie, maybe not at Igors current level but could he be better in 4 years as their trajectory intersects? Possibly, and if that's the case you'd ship Igor out at that point and ride the cheaper guy

 

[ArPanet]

Who would trade for Igor in 4 years if he's at ~ 12M?

 

[Synergy27]

"Word is that he struggled", like Vince couldn't be bothered to know for sure and just looked at some stats. Word around the corner is something happened and didn't look good.

Same reaction. How f***ing lazy. “People tell me”. “Everyone is saying”. That’s embarrassing for a “journalist”.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Great news. If the cap goes up significantly the Rangers can keep Trouba next year.

 

[egelband]

no
I don't mind admitting I'm wrong when that is actually the case, but that is NOT the situation here.
Rempe will not get max benefit development in the A.
He needs max mins here = reg 4th line mins = 10ish per nite.
He can supplement by having a specialist skating tutor do extra training w/him to target his development.

We want Rempe available for the POs and the above is most direct, smartest way to likely achieve that.
The A will not cut it.

We need Rempe, Edstrom + Kreider all kicking on all cylinders to get past FL

Were the decision between Rempe getting 11 mins/game on the third line in the AHL and Rempe getting 3 mins/game in the NHL I think I’d prefer the latter.
But it appears Rempe is actually getting big minutes in various situations with Hartford so I’m happy with that. Think we’ll see him up and playing a more consequential role in after the new year.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Were the decision between Rempe getting 11 mins/game on the third line in the AHL and Rempe getting 3 mins/game in the NHL I think I’d prefer the latter.
But it appears Rempe is actually getting big minutes in various situations with Hartford so I’m happy with that. Think we’ll see him up and playing a more consequential role in after the new year.

has he actually improved at all? Because him seeing minutes and him improving are very very separate things.

 

[egelband]

has he actually improved at all? Because him seeing minutes and him improving are very very separate things.

He had a goal and an assist and seven shots in his last game. Obviously a small sample size but either way, if he does have an nhl skillset, giving him big minutes in the ahl seems to be a reasonanle way to get him there.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Wasn't thinking 12.5, more like 11.5

And that's certainly a take..

Imagine thinking Igor needs to do more. Lol. This is precisely why I come and go on this f***ing site.

You're right he's done everything.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Great news. If the cap goes up significantly the Rangers can keep Trouba next year.

Wut

 

[Flan the incredible]

Wut

I know you are excited.

 

[Boris Zubov]

You're right he's done everything.

And we still aren't winning a cup with this team. We can not win the cup without him & his 12 million next year.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

And we still aren't winning a cup with this team. We can not win the cup without him & his 12 million next year.

our only hope is Igor realizing this and refusing to sign.

 

[bernmeister]

Were the decision between Rempe getting 11 mins/game on the third line in the AHL and Rempe getting 3 mins/game in the NHL I think I’d prefer the latter.
But it appears Rempe is actually getting big minutes in various situations with Hartford so I’m happy with that. Think we’ll see him up and playing a more consequential role in after the new year.

Want him to get mo mins not less, but he will still learn more here than in the A.
But thanks for the positive vibe.

Again, he needs to already be here and ready for the POs
The Panthers are not going to disappear, and we need whatever size we can muster for that

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Who would trade for Igor in 4 years if he's at ~ 12M?

Cap is gonna climb, 4 years time it's like 9 mill, and if not you retain a little bit if necessary. Teams every year are looking for a goalie, they'll make room for him if they need one, especially if it's only for 3 years.
For arguments sake, Vancouver right now. Demko looks like he is a question mark, do you think they'd find a way to add Shesterkin now? I do, maybe someone takes demkos contract for a pick and they make some cap space up to get him in the fold for 3 years of cup runs. There's always teams looking for high end players.
Another scenario, would you trade a package that surrounded Shesterkin and Petersson in vancouver and run Quick and Garand right now? Then trade Zibanejad in a package for a true top 4 ld. Is the team better then? I'd argue it is. I love Shesterkin but his contract along with everything else we have going on is gonna make it hard for us to get better than we currently are.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

has he actually improved at all? Because him seeing minutes and him improving are very very separate things.

His last game vs. the mini-Bruins was really good by any standard. Rempe was on the PP and the PK and generated some great chances by himself on more than a handful of instances. There were a couple wtf moments but those were outweighed by the rest of his play. He had a goal and an assist and was 1st star of the game. I haven't been able to catch a Pack game outside of that though so I can't speak to more of his AHL time other than one game.

 

[eco's bones]

12 million... and he is worth every Steve Penny of it . Without him we are fodder for the wolves . I can live with either decision[but nothing half assed....trade all the dummies overpaid and play kids ] but I prefer to resign him . The kid route would take some time and there is nothing assured with our drafting/coaching/GM fellows getting it right ...they likely blow it and soon we are at one cup in 100 years.....some legacy for an original 6 club to have .

In NHL terms yeah---giving $12 million to anybody doing anything or even nothing at all kind of goes against the grain for me. In the end here though it's one guy getting very very rich vs. some fabulously wealthy individual reaping in even more just from owning the team and I'd rather not take sides other than I know the team that I'm a fan of are better off with a great goalie than worry at all about whatever plutocrat happens to own the team at the moment. I'm certainly not into pinching pennies to let an elite player walk. Who are we going to replace him with?