Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[mxyxptlk]

I’d assume he’d be waived if he tried to block a trade again.

Don't think you can waive him...that's considered "movement" and he has NMC (although limited).

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Can people get the f*** over the Trouba thing? He did what anyone would do for their family and flexed his power to get his way

Game is game.

He’ll be gone next summer

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

Can people get the f*** over the Trouba thing?

Thing is I want our team to win or at least play good hockey & his cruddy game prevents that. His presence in the lineup is a continual irritant. I agree that fault here lies w Ranger management and not the player, but as a fan that doesn't make much difference.

He’ll be gone next summer

Do we know this? And even if true, it's still throwing another year away.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Thing is I want our team to win or at least play good hockey & his cruddy game prevents that. His presence in the lineup is a continual irritant. I agree that fault here lies w Ranger management and not the player, but as a fan that doesn't make much difference.



Do we know this? And even if true, it's still throwing another year away.

Funny enough, when Lindgren was out of the lineup, and he was paired with Schneider, their pair was a net positive.

I dont think its Trouba. I think its the pairing w Miller.
Trouba doesn't look slow (the thing that usually causes this kind of drop off).

 

[Boris Zubov]

Don't think you can waive him...that's considered "movement" and he has NMC (although limited).

He has a limited NTC, not a NMC. He can certainly be waived. That's what they did with Goodrow.

 

[IDvsEGO]

He has a limited NTC, not a NMC. He can certainly be waived. That's what they did with Goodrow.

He can be waived.
If he's waived and no one claims him, he goes to hartford. He was likely going to be unclaimed because of the "threat to not report"

If he goes to hartford we save something like 1.2 million on the cap and thats it. We would then need to replace him on the roster, and guess what, that would've been more than 1.2 million.

The point of moving him is to actually save cap space.

 

[lakeshirts37]

He signed a multi million dollar contract. He got paid more due to us being able to trade him. With all due respect I don't give a shit about his family. Seriously couldn't two f***s. Does he give a shit about my family?

totally normal response!

 

[Boris Zubov]

He can be waived.
If he's waived and no one claims him, he goes to hartford. He was likely going to be unclaimed because of the "threat to not report"

If he goes to hartford we save something like 1.2 million on the cap and thats it. We would then need to replace him on the roster, and guess what, that would've been more than 1.2 million.

The point of moving him is to actually save cap space.

Not sure why you're replying to me with this. All I said is he can be waived, I wasn't advocating for it.

Regardless, if they did waive him, it would probably with the intention that they have an agreement with another team to claim him.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Trouba doesn't look slow

 

[IDvsEGO]

i watched the game, that’s not “slow” that’s just pulling up to take a slap shot. Watch his feet. When he stops moving then he slows down.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

totally normal response!

Yes, you're the only one that gives a f*** about this guy's family. He's just a dude playing a game for a team I like. I give as much of a f*** about his family as he does mine. Get off your high horse.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Shades of John Scott lmao

 

[LionsHeart]

Why do people keep repeating this? He threatened to not report to camp with any team he got traded to including ones not on his no trade list.

That was an unfounded rumor. If you know of any reputable outlet that can confirm that I’ll change my mind.

 

[IDvsEGO]

That was an unfounded rumor. If you know of any reputable outlet that can confirm that I’ll change my mind.

No idea who you're replying to, but if you're talking the Trouba stuff, it was a brooks report, which is why most of us with 2 working brain cells keep telling people its BS.

 

[mxyxptlk]

He has a limited NTC, not a NMC. He can certainly be waived. That's what they did with Goodrow.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

 

[haohmaru]

Why do people keep repeating this? He threatened to not report to camp with any team he got traded to including ones not on his no trade list.

Completely refuted by Vince.

However, Brooks DID report this -

'Larry Brooks reports that, in efforts to avoid being traded, Jacob Trouba got the word out around the league that he would not report anywhere he was sent to, whether it was on his 15-team no-trade list or not, which forced the Rangers to change course on their entire offseason plan to use opened cap to add to their forward group.
“There were multiple interested parties. The Blueshirts were going to trade their captain. Until, that is, verifiable word circulated quickly through the league that Trouba had no interest in reporting if traded — anywhere.”'

Not sure who to believe in this case.

And, in any event, it's likely that the agent got instructions from Trouba to avoid a trade if at all possible. This means it's likely the agent a.) took a look at who was a possible match b.) took a look at the teams that had no shot because of their cap situation and c.) came up with 15 teams that might've been possible and 17 that likely could never make it work.

Personally, I doubt the "refuse to report" shit because it just would've rolled over to the following year (ie... he wouldn't play for a year but would still have the same contract length and term remaining and damaged, irreversibly, years of NHL career and money in the future.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Completely refuted by Vince.

However, Brooks DID report this -

'Larry Brooks reports that, in efforts to avoid being traded, Jacob Trouba got the word out around the league that he would not report anywhere he was sent to, whether it was on his 15-team no-trade list or not, which forced the Rangers to change course on their entire offseason plan to use opened cap to add to their forward group.
“There were multiple interested parties. The Blueshirts were going to trade their captain. Until, that is, verifiable word circulated quickly through the league that Trouba had no interest in reporting if traded — anywhere.”'

Not sure who to believe in this case.

And, in any event, it's likely that the agent got instructions from Trouba to avoid a trade if at all possible. This means it's likely the agent a.) took a look at who was a possible match b.) took a look at the teams that had no shot because of their cap situation and c.) came up with 15 teams that might've been possible and 17 that likely could never make it work.

Personally, I doubt the "refuse to report" shit because it just would've rolled over to the following year (ie... he wouldn't play for a year but would still have the same contract length and term remaining and damaged, irreversibly, years of NHL career and money in the future.

If he refuses to report, likely the contract is terminated. He loses out on his money.
Not "he has to play there 2 more years.

 

[haohmaru]

If he refuses to report, likely the contract is terminated. He loses out on his money.
Not "he has to play there 2 more years.

No it's not unless the Rangers initiate that. If they do nothing he just loses that year and his contract just skips a year.

Ie... if a player refuses to go to the AHL the team retains his NHL rights even if he sits out for the year as if he never played that year.

 

[IDvsEGO]

No it's not unless the Rangers initiate that. If they do nothing he just loses that year and his contract just skips a year.

again for the Nth time, if he's traded and refuses to report (as per the allegation) he's not the rangers problem. When you use "the rangers' in a sentence referring to this situation, it gives me the impression you don't actually understand what's being discussed here.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Trouba is an artist, some of you will never understand…

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Trouba is an artist, some of you will never understand…

Yeah a bullshit artist

 

[Tob]

How we get zegras? We need this

 

[haohmaru]

again for the Nth time, if he's traded and refuses to report (as per the allegation) he's not the rangers problem. When you use "the rangers' in a sentence referring to this situation, it gives me the impression you don't actually understand what's being discussed here.

If he refuses to report then the team he's refusing to report to can either terminate the contract or sit and wait until he does report and his contract doesn't age. The team doesn't matter. If he doesn't report to the Rangers, or any other team, that holds true.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Yes, you're the only one that gives a f*** about this guy's family. He's just a dude playing a game for a team I like. I give as much of a f*** about his family as he does mine. Get off your high horse.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit eh?

I never said I cared about his family - just provided his reasoning, which I happen to agree with.

For “just a dude playing a game on a team you like” you’re acting like a f***ing child.

 

[mxyxptlk]

How we get zegras? We need this

NO!