Roster Building Thread - Part XII

[Savant]

So with Robertson waived, so I guess Mancini made the team for right now while Lindgren is hurt?

Rangers should pick up Jenik from the Senators off waivers. Adds RW depth and is a pest type player. Only 24 years old. Kind of a psycho on the ice.

So Berard and Mancini made this team as of now?

We have enough pests. We need output. We don’t have enough goals

 

[bernmeister]

Rangers offer Lindgren + 2026 and 2027 3rds
for
Raf Lajoie + EDM 2026 + 2027 2nds

 

[Savant]

way overrated

Better than what we have on the left though. Albeit it’s a low bar to clear

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Schneider got 2 years @ 2.2 mil. I could see Jones getting a similar AAV on a 1 or 3-year deal. Barring anything unforeseen, this will be Jones first full year in the NHL. Yes, he was on the team all of last year, but he only played 31 games and none in the playoffs. This is the first time he'll play as a regular. Let's see how he does with it.

I feel Jones has earned a longer term deal being the pro he is and I doubt he takes a short deal. After a full season he should be able to translate that into a 3 or 4 year deal imo.

 

[bernmeister]

Better than what we have on the left though. Albeit it’s a low bar to clear

compared to what?
he's on a par w/Mackey and has less upside than Robertson

 

[Shesterkybomb]

So just thinking logically, Price signed 10.5, Igor wants more than that. Say it's 11. 8x11 is 88. He can sign here for 11 or sign somewhere else for 12.5, which would really be pushing it imo. So this should be easy for him, it probably comes down to ntc etc at this point.

 

[eco's bones]

I'm not against moving on from Lindgren if we can find a suitable replacement, but this is the problem with trading away picks and prospects. There's no one in our system who can reliably replace him next season. That leaves free agency or trade, and the options for those are pretty thin.

I don't expect Trouba and Lindgren are going to be Rangers for the 25-26 season. That will give us an extra $12.5 to work with. That leaves Fox, Miller, Schneider, Jones and maybe Mancini with Emery, Fortescue maybe showing up in 26-27 or 27-28. I don't see a good reason though why Mancini won't at least be a regular by 25-26.....maybe that even happens this year. The big contracts coming up are Shesterkin, Lafreniere and Miller.....how much cap space their deals take the next priority will probably be bringing in a defenseman more likely via a trade than doing an overboard deal in free agency.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Rangers should pick up Jenik from the Senators off waivers. Adds RW depth and is a pest type player. Only 24 years old. Kind of a psycho on the ice.

Kakko is 23 going to be 24 and his 6th session. If he can't figure it out now. He never will. So he might breakout at 28 on another team.

We should pick up Jenik because he’s only 24 and plays like an animal, even though he hasn’t shown enough in 7 seasons to become a regular NHL player.

We should trade Kakko because he’s already 23 and is finished developing.

It’s painful watching you struggle.

 

[Savant]

compared to what?
he's on a par w/Mackey and has less upside than Robertson

I disagree with all of this. He’s outright better than both.

If you want to say we don’t usually play dmen with Brannstrom skill set, yeah I buy that. But I’m not having that he isn’t better than those two.

But again our puck movement, especially at the blue line, is a major weakness. Brannstrom helps that. Give him audition while Lindgren is out. Couldn’t hurt

 

[bernmeister]

So just thinking logically, Price signed 10.5, Igor wants more than that. Say it's 11. 8x11 is 88. He can sign here for 11 or sign somewhere else for 12.5, which would really be pushing it imo. So this should be easy for him, it probably comes down to ntc etc at this point.

preference 1: sell Igor now for top $$
like I've said, something like
Shesty + zib + Lindgren
for
Nylander + Knies + Liljigren

option 2:
shesty 11.25 x 8 BUT NO FUGGIN CLAUSES
we sell him a yr from now best offer

 

[bernmeister]

I disagree with all of this. He’s outright better than both.

If you want to say we don’t usually play dmen with Brannstrom skill set, yeah I buy that. But I’m not having that he isn’t better than those two.

But again our puck movement, especially at the blue line, is a major weakness. Brannstrom helps that. Give him audition while Lindgren is out. Couldn’t hurt

Bran is not that good
you have a pref for him over Mackey, fine

as to Robertson, he is def better now
but that is not what I said
Robertson has a better size/reach etc skillset
that shit you can't teach
you hope his skating can continue to improve

Bran is better but has plateaued
no big whoop

 

[Savant]

Bran is not that good
you have a pref for him over Mackey, fine

as to Robertson, he is def better now
but that is not what I said
Robertson has a better size/reach etc skillset
that shit you can't teach
you hope his skating can continue to improve

Bran is better but has plateaued
no big whoop

Robertson hasn't made NHL level. He is on waivers and his best case scenario is the Ryan Graves path. Rightfully or wrongfully If we believed in Robertson, he simply would not be on waivers. And we have had him in house and gotten a better look at him than anyone else. I am not saying Brannstrom is a permanent solution; I am saying he is better than what we have internally

 

[RangersFan1994]

Waive Brodzinski and Carrick. Carrick is pointless here

 

[SA16]

Waive Brodzinski and Carrick. Carrick is pointless here

I don't think they're going to waive players that they chose to sign so they can claim a bad player on waivers who you, for some reason, think is secretly good.

 

[TominNC]

I feel Jones has earned a longer term deal being the pro he is and I doubt he takes a short deal. After a full season he should be able to translate that into a 3 or 4 year deal imo.

He hasn’t “earned” anything yet.

 

[bigdog16]

Othmann seems like he could be a Tyler Bertuzzi type player. Complimentary winger, below average skater, plays with snarl, score some goals in the hard area, but definitely never a guy who can drive a line.

 

[bobbop]

If Sherstykin signs an eight year contract it will be heavily laden with bonus clauses which will make him untradeable. Same with Mika and Panarin. Fox’s contract becomes bonus laden once he is 27 and has trade protection.

 

[bernmeister]

Robertson hasn't made NHL level. He is on waivers and his best case scenario is the Ryan Graves path. Rightfully or wrongfully If we believed in Robertson, he simply would not be on waivers. And we have had him in house and gotten a better look at him than anyone else. I am not saying Brannstrom is a permanent solution; I am saying he is better than what we have internally

I respectfully disagree
Bran has plateaued
IF AT ALL he is not night + day better than what we have internally.

Robertson has tools, was not developed properly, and yeah, you're right, the odds are not good.
But at least there is potential his skating can be improved.
And, he actually looked good that one game w/Mancini

They should play Rob + Man and see if that is a real thing or not

 

[Kocur Dill]

So just thinking logically, Price signed 10.5, Igor wants more than that. Say it's 11. 8x11 is 88. He can sign here for 11 or sign somewhere else for 12.5, which would really be pushing it imo. So this should be easy for him, it probably comes down to ntc etc at this point.

Dollars are one thing.
Term is another.

If Drury gives him a NTC/NMC on top of dollars and term then he should be locked in a port-a-potty, set on fire, and pushed over a cliff.

With Igors injury history it would be fiduciarily negligent to do so.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Why are we talking about Robertson - he’s never playing regularly (if at all) in the NHL

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Dollars are one thing.
Term is another.

If Drury gives him a NTC/NMC on top of dollars and term then he should be locked in a port-a-potty, set on fire, and pushed over a cliff

Look around the league. Most big contracts all have some sort of NMC/NTC. Players are not going to sign a longterm deal without some protection. They go hand in hand.

Why are we talking about Robertson - he’s never playing regularly (if at all) in the NHL

Hey, at least we’re not talking about trading Fox like some galaxy-brains were doing a few weeks ago.

 

[E-Train]

I hope Edstrom gets a nice run here and stays in the lineup. Let Carrick and Brodz rotate at C and keep the giant wingers together.

 

[RangersFan1994]

We should pick up Jenik because he’s only 24 and plays like an animal, even though he hasn’t shown enough in 7 seasons to become a regular NHL player.

We should trade Kakko because he’s already 23 and is finished developing.

It’s painful watching you struggle.

We have 30 year old Brodzinski who is just becoming an NHL player. Shows the lack of depth with the Rangers relying on a minor leaguer.

 

[n8]

I don't think they're going to waive players that they chose to sign so they can claim a bad player on waivers who you, for some reason, think is secretly good.

While Brannstrom just got signed, traded, AND waived - I think Rangers got enough flak over the summer for how they handled Goodrow and Trouba so I agree, Carrick will stay. At least until he Tyler Pitlick or Nick Bonino-s himself into Hartford.

 

[bobbop]

I respectfully disagree
Bran has plateaued
IF AT ALL he is not night + day better than what we have internally.

Robertson has tools, was not developed properly, and yeah, you're right, the odds are not good.
But at least there is potential his skating can be improved.
And, he actually looked good that one game w/Mancini

They should play Rob + Man and see if that is a real thing or not

How can you say he was not developed properly? He’s had three full years in the A and he has not distinguished himself.

Some guys never play well enough to make the jump. His skating is fine. His results are not.

You just can’t blame these kind of results on poor player development. It’s not a matter of placing blame. Sometimes it just doesn’t happen.