Roster Building Thread - Part XII (Season starts 10/9 @ 7:30 pm)

[McRanger92]

Igor embracing the villain arc by rejecting a completely fair contract. Interesting move. He better win the Cup and Vezina because a team that isnt the Rangers isnt going to give him anything close to that. Happy trails to him if someone does.

 

[Mike in Houston]

At least with Hank, he went out of his way to be the face of the org. Always available after games to talk to media, etc… He was the unofficial captain of the team. Igor sulks and hides from reporters and even when he does talk it’s rarely of any substance.

"The goalie played shit."

 

[DanielBrassard]

I would rather start a new rebuild than be stuck paying Mika & Igor a combined 20+ through at minimum 2029-30 with 0 way out

Personally I think this team as currently constructed has reached its ceiling so hard to disagree. Being locked in to those two guys throughout their 30s as a significant portion of the cap means it’s going to be difficult to put out a truly competitive team

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Regarding Igor, i love him and i think hes top 3 goalie in the league but 11 mill a year is really generous. Tell him to go get an offersheet, he'll never get one for the money he wants. I'm tired of selfish players who wanna handcuff the organization for their own benefit. Make a package for Merzlikins and Fantilli and go from there.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Should've signed him longer term on his last contract, I remember saying this when most people thought we gave him too much lol. I would gladly give him 12.5M though, replace him with an average goalie and we're missing the playoffs.

 

[Machinehead]

Also laughing at people getting bent out of shape over this number. He’s probably looking for 12 million per, either they settle on 11.5 or Drury goes to 12.

It’s not like there is a huge gap between between what he wants and what they are offering. We’re talking about a million dollars, it’s nothing when you get to this level.

It pops the bubble of the people lying to themselves that he was getting 8.8.

 

[94leetch]

The management of at least one local team just showed some balls. (Jets)
Holy crap.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

How is the igor news not thread worthy? That deserves an exclusive thread

 

[RangerBoy]

Should've signed him longer term on his last contract, I remember saying this when most people thought we gave him too much lol. I would gladly give him 12.5M though, replace him with an average goalie and we're missing the playoffs.

The Rangers didn't have the cap space for a longer deal. The Rangers never have enough cap space.

 

[Raspewtin]

Should've signed him longer term on his last contract, I remember saying this when most people thought we gave him too much lol. I would gladly give him 12.5M though, replace him with an average goalie and we're missing the playoffs.

and keep him and our absolute ceiling remains a non-competitive 3rd round.

whoop de doo.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Heres the crazy part to me. The most term another team can give is 7 years. So hes banking on that he’ll be able to get $13 aav over 7 years for $91 mill total. He aint leaving here for $3mm more. Hold firm on the offer and if he has a down year, lower the offer

 

[Mike in Houston]

Igor to Drury.

 

[Circus86]

8x11 is a fair offer. Heck look at what Saros and Hellebuyck signed for. Obviously Igor deserves more than that but I wouldn't go over 11.

 

[Raspewtin]

there's nowhere to go with this team. the stars aren't good enough besides Fox and will just be another year older and worse. the supporting pieces are great. the cupboard is not promising even though i'm a big tire pumper for Othmann and Berard. we value heart and soul garbage like Lindgren and Trouba until they literally cost us games. i'd rather we just stopped fooling ourselves at this point, we're not good enough and there's no path in sight to being good enough.

 

[McRanger92]

Heres the crazy part to me. The most term another team can give is 7 years. So hes banking on that he’ll be able to get $13 aav over 7 years for $91 mill total. He aint leaving here for $3mm more. Hold firm on the offer and if he has a down year, lower the offer

Totally agree. Let him bet on himself. I personally think these players are barking up the wrong tree leaning into this "last chance" narrative. The constant since theyve been here is that they dont play their best when the pressure is on.

 

[GAGLine]

He's only making 5 and a half, if you take back an expiring deal I'm sure most of the other 20 teams can afford him.

Everyone already has their starting goaltender. I'm sure there are teams who would love an upgrade, but they might also be on his no trade list. Beyond that, any team that trades for him will do so with the expectation of re-signing him. Which team will be willing to give him 12 mil?

Maybe one of Seattle or Anaheim would be an option, but we'd be taking back Grubauer or Gibson in those scenarios, and Anaheim would likely be on Shesty's list in any case. Are our chances really better with Grubauer or Gibson and whatever cap savings they provide us? Certainly not this year, as both make more than Shesty currently. Going forward, probably not either.

The cap should continue to go up and Panarin, Trouba and Kreider, who make a combined 26.1 mil, will either be re-signed or replaced for less than they make now.

I don't want to pay Shesty 12 mil either. I don't want to pay him 11 mil. But thus far, no one has come up with a better solution.

 

[DanielBrassard]

If the rationale for keeping Igor is, he’s the only reason this team makes the playoffs, then that explains everything does it not? Clearly the team in front of him is not good enough and locking him up at double his cap hit probably won’t help.

 

[TGWL]

Igor saving us form us...

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Regarding Igor, i love him and i think hes top 3 goalie in the league but 11 mill a year is really generous. Tell him to go get an offersheet, he'll never get one for the money he wants. I'm tired of selfish players who wanna handcuff the organization for their own benefit. Make a package for Merzlikins and Fantilli and go from there.

You can be very sure they will be on his 10 team no trade list.

But I guess he could pull a Trouba and leak out that he won't report anywhere either.

 

[mas0764]

I would rather start a new rebuild than be stuck paying Mika & Igor a combined 20+ through at minimum 2029-30 with 0 way out

BUT HOW CAN WE THROW AWAY THIS SEASON (in which we have no real chance that's any greater than the last three to win it all)

 

[NYR Viper]

Trade him for Swayman

 

[DanielBrassard]

Everyone already has their starting goaltender. I'm sure there are teams who would love an upgrade, but they might also be on his no trade list. Beyond that, any team that trades for him will do so with the expectation of re-signing him. Which team will be willing to give him 12 mil?

Maybe one of Seattle or Anaheim would be an option, but we'd be taking back Grubauer or Gibson in those scenarios, and Anaheim would likely be on Shesty's list in any case. Are our chances really better with Grubauer or Gibson and whatever cap savings they provide us? Certainly not this year, as both make more than Shesty currently. Going forward, probably not either.

The cap should continue to go up and Panarin, Trouba and Kreider, who make a combined 26.1 mil, will either be re-signed or replaced for less than they make now.

I don't want to pay Shesty 12 mil either. I don't want to pay him 11 mil. But thus far, no one has come up with a better solution.

Panarin who was an MVP level player during the regular season and Kreider who is one of the few rangers who is underpaid. Sure replacing Trouba wouldn’t be too difficult but it’s not like those guys coming off the books is gonna make the team better.

 

[tlk]

Calm people this looks kinda not very believable innit?

 

[TGWL]

Also laughing at people getting bent out of shape over this number. He’s probably looking for 12 million per, either they settle on 11.5 or Drury goes to 12.

It’s not like there is a huge gap between between what he wants and what they are offering. We’re talking about a million dollars, it’s nothing when you get to this level.

But how close they are is irrelevant to the point of Igor taking up that cap space for 8 years. Like 11 or 11.5, the issue isn't the 500k. I don't think anybody realistically thought under 10 and if they did, they've been under a rock for a while.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Must be nice to turn down $88M. I wouldn't turn down $20.