Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[Savant]

Where the TRADES?!

Trouba for Buffalo's 1st
Lindgren for two Utah's 2nds
McGroarty and a 2nd for Kakko and a 3rd.

GET ER DONE SLATS!

I feel like trades like this happen on day 2 more often than day 1

 

[effen]

I just remembered in the other thread, remember when this board had a collective aneurysm and blamed a random ass skills coach no one had ever heard of for thousands of posts?

Pouring one out for Mark Ciaccio. You filled the void between Tanner Glass and Jacob Trouba.

 

[RangerBoy]

Indeed, a well-placed source has told The Post that GM Chris Drury is working on a deal to send the captain to the Red Wings, a trade that the Michigan native would presumably accept after having played as a freshman for the Wolverines in 2012-13.

We are told the Rangers may retain $2.5 million per year on the two remaining seasons of Trouba’s $8M annual cap charge. That represents 31.25 percent retention that would also be applied to the $12M in salary Trouba has coming over the next two seasons.

If that does become the amount of retention if this deal goes through, that would clear an additional $5.5M in space … but the Blueshirts would have to then find a reasonable replacement for the most physical and menacing player on the team who held down a spot on their first penalty-kill unit.

Talk of Rangers trading Jacob Trouba to Red Wings growing

Momentum continues to build for the Rangers captain Jacob Trouba’s exit from New York after five seasons.

nypost.com

Drury better get a good return for retaining $2.5M.

 

[LOFIN]

Talk of Rangers trading Jacob Trouba to Red Wings growing

Momentum continues to build for the Rangers captain Jacob Trouba’s exit from New York after five seasons.

nypost.com

Drury better get a good return for retaining $2.5M.

Return? I would f***ing pay to get rid of Trouba even retained.

 

[Cheapshot]

There haven’t been many leaks from drurys group. That seems pretty detailed. Wonder if they leaked it just to prepare everyone for the captains potential move Monday

 

[Vitto79]

5.5 savings to sign UFAs ?
I’ll take it

 

[DialUp]

I thought Brooks said Trouba isn't going anywhere and that he was the team's shadow mouthpiece. Now we are back in on Kane?

 

[Good Intentions]

It’s becoming apparent that the Trouba trade is already complete, Drury is likely giving him and his family the weekend to figure out logistics and prepare for Monday.

 

[bernmeister]

I am open to 2.5 retained and hopefully a better return

It is well documented I was saying for yr +, retain 1.5, add a 3rd, get 2 2nds

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

If they can get rid of trouba and only retain $2.5, I literally do not care what the return is.

 

[bernmeister]

Predictions for tonight:

- Shesterkin for Tkachuk, Ullmark, Chychrun
- Zib, Lindgren for Eichel, Theodore, Roy
- Trouba for Utah’s 6th overall pick
- Kakko for Askarov

Predictions for July 1:
- Matt Roy 5m aav
- Guentzel 8m aav
- Domi 2m aav

2025 Cup Champs:

Tkachuk-Eichel-Lafreniere
Panarin-Trocheck-Guentzel
Kreider- Domi - Cuylle
Berard - Roy - Vesey

Chychrun - Fox
Theodore - Roy
Jones - Schneider


Ullmark
Quick
Askarov

I was asked to comment on the above:

- Shesterkin for Tkachuk, Ullmark, Chychrun
NO
better use of repurposing Shesty, Sens do not do it, while Igor is better than Ul, they are best served by having a good enuf elite G as opposed to the best one, given it is a cap league and that impacts roster
also don't want Chych

- Zib, Lindgren for Eichel, Theodore, Roy
Vegas says NO

- Trouba for Utah’s 6th overall pick
not enuf psychedelic drugs for that to [have] happen[ed]

- Kakko for Askarov
NO

Predictions for July 1:
- Matt Roy 5m aav
- Guentzel 8m aav
- Domi 2m aav
Roy gets 7-8 per dep on term, no
also would like Roy as stopgap but do not want to give a long term deal


Guentz maybe 8.5 x 8 to stay CAR
do not want to do long term contract

no to Domi


2025 Cup Champs:
yr projections do not happen, so listing is moot

I’ll give Trouba and 30 for Zegras

it will take more

 

[NYR Viper]

The return better be some futures or a good young center for Trouba. He’s not as bad as many here are clamoring and at $5.5m he has real value. I wonder if the deal was either take back Holl or retain. I’d prefer to retain.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

The return better be some futures or a good young center for Trouba. He’s not as bad as many here are clamoring and at $5.5m he has real value. I wonder if the deal was either take back Holl or retain. I’d prefer to retain.

He is a 3rd pairing defensemen who was glaringly bad all season. He can’t make a breakout pass to save his life. He routinely is out of position. I love his leadership but I can’t see him playing a meaningful role on a Stanley cup winning team.

 

[Riche16]

Can't we just waive him & NOT retain?

 

[LOFIN]

He is a 3rd pairing defensemen who was glaringly bad all season. He can’t make a breakout pass to save his life. He routinely is out of position. I love his leadership but I can’t see him playing a meaningful role on a Stanley cup winning team.

I can see him bouncing back as a decent third pairing guy, or even #4 if all goes right. Still not anywhere near 8mil value, and I'm on board with moving him because I just want a different look for this D-corps. We don't have the luxury of having too many top value contracts. Lafreniere I expect to be one. That's about it, and you need those serious surplus value contracts to have an 8 million dollar boat anchor.

Can't we just waive him & NOT retain?

Is someone really going to claim him for his full value? I mean I guess you could try.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Can't we just waive him & NOT retain?

I'm guessing Detroit is a preferred destination for Trouba. Probably trying to get something done there before expanding to lesser-desired teams. I think while I would get rid of Trouba for free, the retention most likely means a return of some kind.

 

[gump116]

I'm guessing Detroit is a preferred destination for Trouba. Probably trying to get something done there before expanding to lesser-desired teams. I think while I would get rid of Trouba for free, the retention most likely means a return of some kind.

Wouldn’t mind Perry as the return, ideally instead of the retention. Only 1 year left at 2.4m cap hit, so wouldn’t owe anything after this year and could be 3rd pair rhd.

 

[Fitzy]

Only situation where I’d be fine with retaining is if we don’t take a big salary back. I’d do Trouba straight up for Copp but for 2.5 retained I’d want an actual valuable prospect.

Did we not qualify Matthew Robertson? I’ve read a few posts here sounding like moratoriums on his NYR career but haven’t seen anything official

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The return is getting Trouba and (most) of his cap hit off the team. People expecting there to be anything good on top of that are setting themselves up for disappointment

 

[frozenrubber]

Wouldn’t mind Perry as the return, ideally instead of the retention. Only 1 year left at 2.4m cap hit, so wouldn’t owe anything after this year and could be 3rd pair rhd.

Jeff Petry is an Ann Arbour native and he specifically wanted to go to Detroit. Can't imagine him changing tune and he has contract protections.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Also, freeing up 5.5 million in space potentially to immediately hand it to Patrick Kane is something

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Also, freeing up 5.5 million in space potentially to immediately hand it to Patrick Kane is something

Drury having the stones to move Trouba is exciting. What he does with the space will tell us a lot about his thought process and if he truly “gets it.” All the chatter seems to have it as a move for the wonder twins RW, not to actually improve the defense. They will probably sign some plug to play RD on the 3rd pair or we will see Ben Harpur.

Edit or even better, giving Igor a baker’s dozen.

 

[Fitzy]

Also, freeing up 5.5 million in space potentially to immediately hand it to Patrick Kane is something

They’ll spend more than half of it on Tanev

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Kane scored at a 30g, 75pt pace last season after surgery. He's not a terrible add, but he's not exactly what the Rangers were missing either.