Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[Kravtsov420]

LOL....you might think differently about that once we leave Vegas with Brady Tkachuk ! Rangers will be all in moving forward . Prospects and picks and AHL bottom 6 players won't win us a Cup.....the top 6 needs a major injection of a good hard nosed big SOB that arrives in corners nasty and remains nasty until he gets back to the bench for a shift change . This will be Tkachuk and Laf's club after Trouba is gone . Our top 6 will look different very soon . They will fit him in under the cap with Kakko and Trouba out and maybe grab a 6th Dman at the same time . Kreider or Thachuk will shift wings . Go Drury !!!

See kids, meth, not even once.

 

[McRanger92]

See kids, meth, not even once.

 

[LOFIN]

Unfortunately, they can't trade Trouba before Monday.

Sure they can, if he waives his NMC. The only time of the year when you can't make trades is the roster freeze during Christmas, which lasts for like two days.

 

[kovazub94]

Drury’s dealings are absolutely a back hole from the information standpoint. Going backwards there was absolutely no indication of Wennberg or Roslovic at TDL. Or his minimalistic shopping spree last offseason, or Mikkola coming in the package with Tarasenko, or Trocheck signing (instead of Copp or Strome) etc. I will not opine on Kane but from all sides it looks like Dolan forced a decision on him there.

Now we do have good evidence that Drury sees what issues need to be addressed and he tries to address them in the way he see fit (but there’s surely logic behind these decisions - not just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something will stick). It’s my personal believe that he understands a need for better partner for Fox and that Trouba is too expensive to keep around in the context that team needs to be addressed are expensive as well and something got to give.

 

[bigdog16]

Drury’s dealings are absolutely a back hole from the information standpoint. Going backwards there was absolutely no indication of Wennberg or Roslovic at TDL. Or his minimalistic shopping spree last offseason, or Mikkola coming in the package with Tarasenko, or Trocheck signing (instead of Copp or Strome) etc. I will not opine on Kane but from all sides it looks like Dolan forced a decision on him there.

Now we do have good evidence that Drury sees what issues need to be addressed and he tries to address them in the way he see fit (but there’s surely logic behind these decisions - not just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something will stick). It’s my personal believe that he understands a need for better partner for Fox and that Trouba is too expensive to keep around in the context that team needs to be addressed are expensive as well and something got to give.

Yeah, agreed here. Brooks isn't as engrained as he once was, and Vince doesn't seem to have any inside sources either. To be honest, Mollie has probably broken more news than anyone the past couple years.

I like that Drury keeps everything hidden. Most of his dealings have come out of nowhere it seems.

 

[mxyxptlk]

From Trouba's perspective, it makes no difference regardless, so I see no reason why he wouldn't waive.

I don't think he'd waive if team is one that is/will be on his no list.

 

[djzbad]

Rangers trade Kakko and Trouba today or Biden deletes his account.

That guys been wiped cleaner than Hillary’s private server

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Them keeping Lindgren would not suggest to me that Drury knows he needs to upgrade that 1D spot

He’s getting rid of Trouba because he costs too much, not because he doesn’t like the player lol

 

[EpicDing]

Them keeping Lindgren would not suggest to me that Drury knows he needs to upgrade that 1D spot

He’s getting rid of Trouba because he costs too much, not because he doesn’t like the player lol

I mean Lindgren would be a fine bottom 4 guy. Trade Trouba, sign Lindgren, reallocate a chunk of Trouba's cap for, say, a Chychrun makes a lot of sense.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I mean Lindgren would be a fine bottom 4 guy. Trade Trouba, sign Lindgren, reallocate a chunk of Trouba's cap for, say, a Chychrun makes a lot of sense.

I think all of you underestimate how bad Lindgren will look with out Fox.

Trade both of them.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Lindgren would be fine on a 4-6 role.

 

[NYR Viper]

There are A LOT of teams searching for defensive help this off-season. A LOT.

Boston
Toronto (may need 2 if they don't qualify Liljegren)
Dallas (probably need 2)
Colorado
NYR
Winnipeg
Nashville
Vancouver
NJ
Philadelphia
Florida (needs like 3, maybe 4 if Ekblad is traded)
LA (if they lose Roy)
Buffalo (RD is a big need)
Calgary
Detroit (Need 3 if they dislike Holl)
Utah (need 3)


The list of UFA d-men is pretty scarce in terms of quality...

Roy
Walker
Montour
Zadorov
Dillon
Cole
Tanev
OEL
Skjei
Pesce
Gostisbehere
Brodie
Schultz
Edmundson
Dumba
Kylington
Carier
Hakanpaa
Kulikov


Teams are going to left looking at the lower end of this group with openings in their top-4 and looking to push for the playoffs. I could see Nashville, Dallas, Utah, Detroit, Buffalo and Winnipeg being left with the 'scraps' and trying to determine if it makes sense to sign someone like Schultz for 2 years or trade for Trouba.

The real question is, do teams like that wait or do they get the inclination that the UFA market will not be the place where they can solve their holes and make the trade before 7/1? I am sure Drury and his team would like to make that trade ahead of free agency so they can be aggressive on 7/1 with who they like.

To me, the guy to move before UFA is Lindgren. Sell Utah on his leadership and style of play, recoup some picks. That allows Drury breathing room on 7/1 no matter what to be aggressive and as pieces start to come off the board slowly, let those teams come to Drury to move Trouba at that time.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Lindgren would be fine on a 4-6 role.

The issue is he won't be that here. He's glued to Fox because the BFFs run the asylum.

 

[Tob]

$4.5M for Lindgren is fine as long as we find Fox a legit partner.

 

[GAGLine]

I don't think he'd waive if team is one that is/will be on his no list.

Why would we try to trade him to a team that is on his list? We already have the list. We know which teams he won't accept a trade to. If he is traded, it will almost certainly be a to a team not on his list. In that scenario, it makes no difference if he's traded today or Monday.

 

[NYR Viper]

Yikes

$4.5M for Lindgren is fine as long as we find Fox a legit partner.

NOOOOOOO

You'd be paying $4.5m for a guy who needs to be carried on the 3rd pairing. That's a HUGE waste of cap space

 

[DanielBrassard]

EF said teams believe Carolina will keep Guentzel. Vancouver has made a few signings because they know Jake won't be available.

Teams know Trouba is available and Drury is serious about moving Trouba after the Goodrow move.

Dallas, Vancouver and Toronto are interested in Tanev. Dallas wants to keep him

It’s pretty crazy how the Trouba trade talk has become so prominent. I didn’t really expect it at all despite him falling down the depth chart. It’s good that Drury isn’t playing games, first he puts Goodrow on waivers and now looking like Trouba is out of here. I feel like in the past the Rangers would hold onto them for nostalgia or some notion that they are important contributors on a team that went to the ecf.

 

[GAGLine]

$4.5M for Lindgren is fine as long as we find Fox a legit partner.

If he isn't going to be paired with Fox, that means he's playing 3rd pair. 4.5 mil is too much for that role. 3.5 mil is still a bit higher than I'd like, but we could live with it.

 

[mxyxptlk]

Why would we try to trade him to a team that is on his list? We already have the list. We know which teams he won't accept a trade to. If he is traded, it will almost certainly be a to a team not on his list. In that scenario, it makes no difference if he's traded today or Monday.

You are assuming they have the list -- he is not required to provide it until July 1. There is no evidence that he complied with the request.

 

[McRanger92]

Yikes



NOOOOOOO

You'd be paying $4.5m for a guy who needs to be carried on the 3rd pairing. That's a HUGE waste of cap space

Listening to the 32T pod they are talking about DeBrusk and the Flames. Flames worried about term so not surprised to see them go high AAV for less years. That said what a ridiculous overpay. Chris Kreider makes 6.5 lol.

 

[SA16]

Why would we try to trade him to a team that is on his list? We already have the list. We know which teams he won't accept a trade to. If he is traded, it will almost certainly be a to a team not on his list. In that scenario, it makes no difference if he's traded today or Monday.

Do we know if he actually sent in the list? We know the team asked for the list. It would seem to me, if he didn't want to get traded, the move would be to not send the list prior to the deadline and then if they bring a trade to him before that he would go ahead and put that team on his list for when it needs to be submitted. You can say that would cause a bad relationship between him and management but I'm not sure he would care about that over staying where he wanted to be.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

$4.5M for Lindgren is fine as long as we find Fox a legit partner.

4.5 is a lot for a declining bottom
Pair defender.

 

[McRanger92]

4.5 is a lot for a declining bottom
Pair defender.

You have to make the change to GoAwayLindgren at this point I think.

 

[Vitto79]

Trade Trouba sign Stamkos
Sounds like he may be gone from Tampa

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I mean Lindgren would be a fine bottom 4 guy. Trade Trouba, sign Lindgren, reallocate a chunk of Trouba's cap for, say, a Chychrun makes a lot of sense.

Well K’Andre isn’t a bottom pairing guy which mean Lindgren goes to the bottom pairing. And then you have the same issue Drury does now with Trouba, which is he’s paying too much for a guy who should be on the bottom pair

It makes no sense