Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIII

[RangersFan1994]

I mean Dubois is only 1 year older than Chytil. He’s 100 days younger than Howden. It’s not like he fits our timeline that differently than any of the painful young players we’d be giving up. Dealing from a position of strength to not just solidify, but absolutely cement one of our only positions of weakness isn’t a bad move.

i agree.. its not like he is a 26 year old with a year or 2 away from UFA

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Ignoring the PLD speculation, the best piece of the Post piece:



https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/range...dubois-trade-could-include-alexis-lafreniere/

Made up for an absolute dud of an article with this gem.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I mean Dubois is only 1 year older than Chytil. He’s 100 days younger than Howden. It’s not like he fits our timeline that differently than any of the painful young players we’d be giving up. Dealing from a position of strength to not just solidify, but absolutely cement one of our only positions of weakness isn’t a bad move.

True, but Larry Brooks is suggesting a package of Kakko+Chytil+ which is ridiculous

 

[Edge]

Ottawa is 26.2 which is the next closest. From CapFriendly.

This Tweet is minutes weighted age where the Rangers are 2nd, even though this is from before drafting Lafreniere and Lundqvist.

And that’s without Miller pushing for a spot, or Barron, or the possibility of names like Kravtsov and Lundkvist being on the immediate horizon, and names like Robertson and Schneider potentially not being all that far off.

 

[Edge]

True, but Larry Brooks is suggesting a package of Kakko+Chytil+ which is ridiculous

Yeah, it’s not the timing part, or even that a deal would come with a cost. It’s the over-bidding and the complete cares to the wind approach of giving up a top end young talent on an ELC and who isn’t even to their second deal yet.

Even if we put the talent on the shelf for a second, part of this teams long-term strategy will factor in the concept of having elite young talent on deals that aren’t closing in on $8-$9 million right off the bat.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Uncle Larry needs to STFU

 

[The Crypto Guy]

True, but Larry Brooks is suggesting a package of Kakko+Chytil+ which is ridiculous

He's not really suggesting it, he's just saying what he thinks the Jackets are going to demand and they probably would demand a package like that. Which should be quickly declined.

 

[Kovalev27]

Would never happen

But strome lundkvist kravtsov could

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Larry has to speculate on these things because he has no sources inside of the Rangers organization anymore. That being said I stand by what I said before - Kekkalienen isn't trading him to us without chopping out a leg - too rich.

 

[smoneil]

So PLD is the new Cirelli around here? He's a good young player who is right now an elite 2c. He has the potential to be a 1c, but he ain't there yet. Frankly, his first three years in the league remind me a LOT of Stepan's first three years in the league, except Stepan wasn't stapled to a Panarin level talent for his first two seasons. For a return of Strome and Nils Lundkvist? Sure, that's a gamble I make that PLD will develop into more. More than that? I balk. I have concerns. That kid has a bad habit of absolutely feasting on the bottom-feeder teams and barely producing at all against top teams. I ran some of the stats from the last two seasons in a post on the trade board. It isn't pretty.

Not only are Laf/Kakko not on the table--they're nowhere to be found on the entire dinette set. Nils as the centerpiece, Strome as the placeholder at center (and to balance the cap), and that's it. If that isn't enough, then they can look for a sucker elsewhere. If Kakko, Kravtsov, + + + are being offered, I hold on to those pieces, sweeten them a bit, and then push for a guy like Eichel, who's twice the player PLD is.

 

[egelband]

Dude, how could you leave this out?

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Looks like he stepped out of a Velazquez painting.

 

[charliemurphy]

I figured that Chytil would have to be one of the main pieces for PLD

Wait, so Chytil, Strome, Buch and TDA are out and PLD in... am I missing something? Lol
I’m serious about trying to land PLD and just curious where all these players went and for what. I understand Chytil going and someone like Buch, Strome and TDA but not all of them. Haven’t searched past threads but definitely curious to see what happens. I have to believe that TDA, Strome and Buch are on their way out.

 

[Synergy27]

I still don’t understand the absolute incredulity that any proposal involving Kakko is met with around here. I mean, I guess I understand it given the caliber of player he is, but I think many here would do well to at least consider his value as a trade chip. How many elite wingers can a team realistically retain and pay? How does winning the Lafreniere lottery affect his role and value to the team?

Don’t forget that Panarin is here as well and isn’t going anywhere.

 

[RGY]

Kakko is not being traded. Pass it on.

 

[pld459666]

I still don’t understand the absolute incredulity that any proposal involving Kakko is met with around here. I mean, I guess I understand it given the caliber of player he is, but I think many here would do well to at least consider his value as a trade chip. How many elite wingers can a team realistically retain and pay? How does winning the Lafreniere lottery affect his role and value to the team?

Don’t forget that Panarin is here as well and isn’t going anywhere.

Kakko is a non-starter.

Absolute non-starter

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Wait, so Chytil, Strome, Buch and TDA are out and PLD in... am I missing something? Lol
I’m serious about trying to land PLD and just curious where all these players went and for what. I understand Chytil going and someone like Buch, Strome and TDA but not all of them. Haven’t searched past threads but definitely curious to see what happens. I have to believe that TDA, Strome and Buch are on their way out.

In my fantasy scenario, something roughly like this (although my line up doesn’t really show returns on trades):
Chytil - gone for PLD
Strome/TDA - contract expiry or flipped at deadlines
Buch - part of PLD

uncle Larry’s surmising aside, I figure that PLD could cost Chytil, Buch, Lundkvist - along those lines. It depends on how much pressure CLB and Jarmo are feeling

 

[NYR Viper]

The team waits how long for high picks to build around. Pure homegrown legit talent. They’re going to trade either of them away?

 

[charliemurphy]

In my fantasy scenario, something roughly like this (although my line up doesn’t really show returns on trades):
Chytil - gone for PLD
Strome/TDA - contract expiry or flipped at deadlines
Buch - part of PLD

uncle Larry’s surmising aside, I figure that PLD could cost Chytil, Buch, Lundkvist - along those lines. It depends on how much pressure CLB and Jarmo are feeling

Got it. Sign me up.

 

[Fitzy]

NYR can afford to wait another season on the PLD situation, CBJ doesn't need to trade him right now either.

Collect another year of intel on the development and potential of our guys. See how hard PLD plays when disgruntled. You'll have more useful information.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Kakko is a non-starter.

Absolute non-starter

And thats coming from pld himself

 

[LaffyTaffy]

NYR can afford to wait another season on the PLD situation, CBJ doesn't need to trade him right now either.

Collect another year of intel on the development and potential of our guys. See how hard PLD plays when disgruntled. You'll have more useful information.

Well i mean we’re not the only team interested

 

[Synergy27]

The team waits how long for high picks to build around. Pure homegrown legit talent. They’re going to trade either of them away?

The situation changes when you stockpile them. Kakko would have been a non starter for me a year ago as well. Lafreniere changes that.

If you can deal Kakko for a player of similar caliber at a position of need, you should at least consider it.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The situation changes when you stockpile them. Kakko would have been a non starter for me a year ago as well. Lafreniere changes that.

If you can deal Kakko for a player of similar caliber at a position of need, you should at least consider it.

Kakko is IN a position of need. We are thin at right wing.

 

[True Blue]

I think Schneider is more likely to stick around than Lundkvist.

Agreed

 

[True Blue]

In a perfect world both are on the team and somehow Trouba is out of here in a post-Covid Amnesty buyout exception.

Trouba is here long-term. In some fans perfect world, both are on the team, but nothing in the way that Gorton and JD are building the team makes me believe that two smallish puck movers will comprise two spots on the same side.