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leetch99 said:
With no posts since Sunday I figured a good time for a quick question . Will Rangers go after a designated goon/heavyweight or ride things out with our current crew and hope we are team tough enough ? Will those games against Cap's Wilson and the Isles Ross the Boss ..especially if we play them 6 times in a regional bubble like season ...be a factor in their decision ?
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As it stands right now the D are going to be the roughians. Trouba, Lindgren, and maybe K. Miller. DeAngelo is a pest. A healthy Lemiuex up front for the middle weights maybe.
 
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JohnC said:
The idea should be accepted as a reality that is actually quite possible.

A global pandemic is raging on and the United States is currently a dumpster fire and likely will be for quite a few months ahead.
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I imagine they (and the NBA etc) are going to be pushing hard to get some of the first rounds of vaccines so they can play one way or another.
Whether that is ethical in general is a different question
 
Edge said:
I'd be surprised if the Rangers would consider Hoffman.

As for Buch, I'd suspect any move for him would require taking back salary as well --- so that eats into what you'd pay his free agent replacement.

To that second point, you'd have to get a tangible NHL-level talent in return because you really shouldn't trade him for futures and replace him with a guy who is 5-6 years older. You'll need a roster return.
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Id be surprised too, like i said it would be the only way I'd consider him, but man a top 6 that included Panarin, Zib, Hoffman, Kreider, Strome and Kakko would be deadly without even factoring in Lafreniere. Imagine pp1...deadly.
 
Edge said:
I can tell you that while things never went to a court of law, there's really very little doubt industry-wide about much of what happened. I think there are candidates and situations you hedge your bets with. I don't think Hoffman is one of those situations.

In a nutshell, a lot of teams just aren't going to want to go there, and I suspect the Rangers are probably one of them.
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They'd just have to include a clause in his contract that neither him nor his woman can have any contact with Panarin and his fiance. Then we good!
 
Don’t think you are going to get good LHD value for Buchnevich. Think you have to move him for another RW who is similar but will make less than the upcoming RFA raise. But to do that, you probably going to have to take on some salary back, which the Rangers may or may not be able to do right now. Maybe a guy on a 2 year deal in the 4-5m cap hit range for a team that needs cap? Reilly Smith and Ondrej Palat economically make sense but those teams probably don’t do that as contenders. Maybe you can add an expiring contract like Smith to Buchnevich to go over that budget to roll the dice and buy low on a Phil Kessel type. Not a ton of options in that part of the market though. Spitballing some names because NBA Draft is boring, not advocating for anyone in particular.
 
in terms of cancellation....i highly doubt the NHL cancels the whole season, especially as other major sports continue to play

now if EVERY sport cancels their seasons that is a different story, but currently i dont see how the NHL decides to cancel its season while major sports around the world continue to be played
 
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JohnC said:
The idea should be accepted as a reality that is actually quite possible.

A global pandemic is raging on and the United States is currently a dumpster fire and likely will be for quite a few months ahead.
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I mean, yes I get that. And I have always consider it possible, but also...this:

Rangers in 7 said:
in terms of cancellation....i highly doubt the NHL cancels the whole season, especially as other major sports continue to play

now if EVERY sport cancels their seasons that is a different story, but currently i dont see how the NHL decides to cancel its season while major sports around the world continue to be played
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The fact that it appears NEW financial disputes are arising just after reaching an agreement a few months back is unacceptable. The league's stance that somehow they have discovered "new information" in that timeframe that requires renegotiation points to either what a clownshow the executives are (how was any of the current situation not foreseeable...if anything vaccine timing should have been a slight positive surprise) or how gullible and whipped they see we the fans as being (hey lets leverage this for as much $$ possible...the simp fans will come back as always).
 
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Levitate said:
I imagine they (and the NBA etc) are going to be pushing hard to get some of the first rounds of vaccines so they can play one way or another.
Whether that is ethical in general is a different question
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Should be the sick and the elderly and probably pro athletes at the bottom of the list would be more fitting .
 
Levitate said:
I imagine they (and the NBA etc) are going to be pushing hard to get some of the first rounds of vaccines so they can play one way or another.
Whether that is ethical in general is a different question
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I kind of doubt it. Once year when there was a shortage of flu vaccines, there was a bit of outrage about how the Calgary Flames got a batch. The reaction would be multiplied by a lot in this case.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
The NHL losing a season while every other league forges ahead would be a death blow to the league

There’s no way it happens. The owners will have to stop whining and just realize they’re not going to be AS rich for a while
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This is just some of the scummier owners crying poverty because their other business interests have taken a temporary hit. Like most billionaires, they're still asset rich and could easily leverage a small fraction of those assets to borrow money at historically low interest rates and get by just fine. They're just using this "emergency" to try and get more concessions from the players.

A leopard can't change it's spots. Many of these owners have managed to get rich, stay rich, and become richer by employing the same tactics they're using right now.
 
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JohnC said:
The idea should be accepted as a reality that is actually quite possible.

A global pandemic is raging on and the United States is currently a dumpster fire and likely will be for quite a few months ahead.
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Sure would be quite embarrassing if every other major sport was able to figure it out except the NHL. Would be just another step of the NHL falling out of being one of the the top sports in the US.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
The NHL losing a season while every other league forges ahead would be a death blow to the league

There’s no way it happens. The owners will have to stop whining and just realize they’re not going to be AS rich for a while
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This notion will make people making 40k a year really angry for some reason.
 
leetch99 said:
Should be the sick and the elderly and probably pro athletes at the bottom of the list would be more fitting .
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Most vulnerable and the health care workers who have to deal with sick people very day first, yeah

But this is America (and Canada), our rich sports industries will get theirs

A teams payroll for a year is a drop in the bucket compared to the worth of a billionaire that owns the team. Somehow it's the players that are greedy though.
 
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ElLeetch said:
And many of these owners who cry poor all the time; you couldn't pry the team out of their cold dead hands. Paper loses is all it is.
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actually its more like paper gains. The NHL seems to have a liquidity crises because their value is all paper and they dont have cash on hand without fans in the stands.

owners actually lose money on the teams themselves in some instances, but thats ok bc they make paper gains in the real estate surrounding the team and team valuations that are far more substantial.

those sort of gains are not easily made into liquid cash to pay players, employees, staff etc.

Money doesnt just sit in a bank account gaining .1% interest. The owners use their money to make more money investing to keep building brand and real estate valuations.

this is why they are asking players to defer. But the players should demand to get paid interest for deferments
 
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Rangers in 7 said:
in terms of cancellation....i highly doubt the NHL cancels the whole season, especially as other major sports continue to play

now if EVERY sport cancels their seasons that is a different story, but currently i dont see how the NHL decides to cancel its season while major sports around the world continue to be played
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They'll cancel the season for teams in the US so a Canadian team can win a cup.
 
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