Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LX

[I Eat Crow]

Re-sign Tony. Trade for a top 5 pick in 2022. Draft ... Miroshnichenko xD

You spelled Brad Lambert wrong.

 

[bl02]

Uhhhh if lafreniere had a career like Rick Nash I think we would mostly be pretty happy with that, minus the lack of playoff experience.

Hall has been pretty damn good too

Honestly we might not have the patience if he took the trajectory Hall took. I mean I guess you have to take into consideration the fact he played in a toxic environment. I'm hoping for Lafreniere to be a better all around player and obviously on a winning team.
actually looking at the stats he put up with Edmonton his first 3 years were a little better than I thought. He did put up 80 points in his 4th year.

 

[Rangers in 7]

He’s been played more on the wing, but he’s every bit as much a center as Chytil is. But my point is, constructing an all star fantasy lineup makes everyone salivate but doesn’t necessarily win Cups. Lafreniere may well be an incredible talent, but let’s say he’s the next Taylor Hall/Tyler Seguin (I mean, these would be some pretty stiff competition to surpass, let’s be realistic and honest). Would the Rangers and their youth be better off with the personnel they already have (Panarin, Zibanejad, Kakko, Kreider, Buch, Kravstov, Fox, Trouba, Miller, etc.) and Tkachuk + Raymond/Rossi/Sanderson etc. or adding another winger?

I think drafting Lafreniere is enough to make anyone drench their pants, but I want to win Cups. Plural.

Quick answer no

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Tkachuk is a great player but I don't even think of moving Laf for him. Talk about Laf being all potential - Tkachuk hasn't scored 50 pointes yet and people talk about him like he's a proven elite player.

I'd stop watching hockey if the Rangers traded the 1OA for both of Ottawa's picks and Tkachuk

 

[Polar Bear]

I know I’m asking for a lot but I hope Lafreniere’s leadership is Messier like as he helps them to a Stanley Cup.

He has a similar type of leadership and fire on the ice. It's not surprise he said that Messier is a big influence on him.

 

[Leetch3]

You spelled Brad Lambert wrong.

a nice finnish name to play with kakko

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Tkachuk is a great player but I don't even think of moving Laf for him. Talk about Laf being all potential - Tkachuk hasn't scored 50 pointes yet and people talk about him like he's a proven elite player.

I’m a big fan, but you’re absolutely right. For Ottawa to even open the conversation, there need to be three major piece on the table. IMO. Tkachuk counts as only one.

(And even then, the offer needs to be over the top to move off of a potential Matthews/MacKinnon.)

 

[huerter]

You guys are putting a lot of weight into what you've heard.

 

[Levitate]

I feel like talking of trading the #1 is overthinking things or getting too cute trying to acquire guys you/we like outside of the context of trading a #1
It’s a bit of “grass is always greener”

Also as well Can you imagine how effed it’d be if the rangers traded the #1 for Tkachuck and the #5 and Tkachuck never became more than a 60-70 point player (still good but not elite) and the #5 busted and Laf became a franchise player winning art Ross’s and captain leading his team to a cup?
Maybe that’s not how it’s play out but sometimes just make the simple move rather than trying to be the smartest person in the room and fooling yourself

 

[NYRangers16]

Stop with Krug. All of you Sathers with your cigars need to quit your bad habits.

 

[LeetchisGod]

You guys are putting a lot of weight into what you've heard.

How so?

 

[frozenrubber]

If it’s and buts were candy and nuts, everyday would be Christmas.

Oh, and by the way, Trouba will be 31 when his contract expires.

It's ok, you're both wrong. Trouba will be 32 when his contract ends in 2026.

 

[TominNC]

. I think you are misinterpreting. I never said they shouldn’t use resources to get better. I simply said a deal like Eichel would cost us probably the top pick, Kakko, and more

I’m going with the stipulation posted often the past couple of days that certain players are not included - Kakko, Laf, Fox, Shesty.
Whether accurate or not those are the general guidelines being used. The assumption being that Buffalo would be stuck and needed to accept a deal more in line with past deals for top players.

If you’re using some other assumptions then yes it’s not possible.

 

[brians1128]

Why are we talking about Tkachuk? If ranger management believes in Krieder and Panarin as the 1 and 2 left wing. If they pick up the phone I want to talk about Chabot and the 3rd that way we get one of the center prospects as well. Outside of that I’m not talking. Our biggest holes are 2c and 1ld, you can satisfy that now I’m interested

 

[bobbop]

It's ok, you're both wrong. Trouba will be 32 when his contract ends in 2026.

It’s considered his age 31 season.

 

[Polar Bear]

Why are we talking about Tkachuk? If ranger management believes in Krieder and Panarin as the 1 and 2 left wing. If they pick up the phone I want to talk about Chabot and the 3rd that way we get one of the center prospects as well. Outside of that I’m not talking. Our biggest holes are 2c and 1ld, you can satisfy that now I’m interested

Because someone brought up some hypothetical and stupid offer proposed out of nowhere by a random radio host and someone thought it was actually decent. Lol

 

[broadwayblue]

I feel like talking of trading the #1 is overthinking things or getting too cute trying to acquire guys you/we like outside of the context of trading a #1
It’s a bit of “grass is always greener”

Also as well Can you imagine how effed it’d be if the rangers traded the #1 for Tkachuck and the #5 and Tkachuck never became more than a 60-70 point player (still good but not elite) and the #5 busted and Laf became a franchise player winning art Ross’s and captain leading his team to a cup?
Maybe that’s not how it’s play out but sometimes just make the simple move rather than trying to be the smartest person in the room and fooling yourself

I wouldn't trade Lafreniere for Tkachuk and #5. But if they added #3 that's a lot to consider.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

By midway thru next season our bottom 6 is gonna have Kreider in it. How many teams can boast depth like that!?

 

[jay from jersey]

None of that is really surprising. Talented players on ELCs are going to be critical going forward. Keep the pipeline moving.

Tony’s skill set isn’t easily replaced as some think. I’m hoping they at least try him on the left side before moving him. It wouldn’t be the first time in history to have a right handed D playing LD. Who knows may DeAngelo-Lundkvist would be a great pairing for NYR

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

The Blackhawks won their last cup with basically the corpse of Brad Richards at second line center. You are overrating the importance of that position. The Lightning just won with Cirelli at second line center. Not a difference making player by any means.

Was going to mention this earlier. Everyone is obsessed with getting the next Crosby - Malkin combo down the middle but the Lightning just convincingly won the cup with only 1 scoring line, and only one top Center. 2nd line was useless for most of the playoffs.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Brady Tkachuk is not a Center. Stop it.

Lafreniere is more of a center than him

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Krug is redundant. Remember when Leetch and Poti were together? This isn't tag team wrestling you need a good cop and bad cop. Brendan Dillon for four years is fine, or sign Andy Greene for one year with all that extra cap room and have him play with Trouba and also drive K. Miller/Hajek/Reunenan to the rink every day.

I'd like to also add Nieto. That's a must.

I still want Wayne Simmonds for the leadership and bottom line grit. He's not here to score goals but as an energy 4th liner who can play up in the lineup if he's on and having him out on a line with Kakko and Laf some nights would open up things for them.

 

[egelband]

Well would you say a second round pick for Georgiev is 'an offer so good they can't refuse,' because that's what it sounds like he's going to return

Deal!

 

[egelband]

No doubt. But Lafreniere is also, yet another winger, a POTENTIAL franchise player and comes by himself. Tkachuk would be an already proven capable NHL player who is all but obviously headed for 60-70pts per season and comes with a prospect like Raymond/Rossi/Sanderson/Perfetti attached.

This is where we need to trust our scouts, i guess. I hear what you’re saying. But I think we’ll do the right thing. Not to mention, I can’t handle trying to overthink this. Hurts my brain. But, indeed, Tkachuk and Byfield/Stutzle is a good offer.

 

[Polar Bear]

This is where we need to trust our scouts, i guess. I hear what you’re saying. But I think we’ll do the right thing. Not to mention, I can’t handle trying to overthink this. Hurts my brain. But, indeed, Tkachuk and Byfield/Stutzle is a good offer.

We would not accept that, and Ottawa won't offer it, so this whole thing was some dumb hypothetical. Let's move on to realistic topics. lol