Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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I love it just because I love the idea of Anisimov in Hartford.



Seems unlikely, but having a veteran depth center in the organization, especially with Chytil out, isn't a negative.

The social media intern had to go back to the 2010 archives for that picture lol
 
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Red Wings 3-9-1 since Kane joined. 1 regulation win.

what could've been

Pretty sure Kane is only getting points on the PP when he can do it standing still. Rangers made their decision on a washed veteran when they brought in Wheeler, who at least can still do stuff 5v5.
 
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Adam Henrique. 34 in February. 6'0" 195 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 19 points in 35 games with 9 points coming at even strength (7 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 5.825 mil. Pending UFA. He's -3 on a bad Anaheim team. 11:29 TOI at EV, 2:47 SH, 2:23 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 1.70. Faceoff %: 53.6.

Jason Dickinson. 29 in July. 6'2" 200 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 18 points in 36 games with all 18 coming at even strength (17 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 2.65 mil. Pending UFA. Somehow, he's a +9 on a bad Chicago team. 13:10 TOI at EV, 2:13 SH, 0:14 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 3.80. Faceoff %: 47.2.

Henrique will cost more to acquire and cost more in terms of retention to make him fit. Dickinson is bigger, younger and more productive. He isn't great on faceoffs, but he's still better than Chytil (43.3% this year) and Bonino/Peca may be able to help him get above 50%. He'll probably get a bit less ice time on the Rangers, but he isn't depending on PP points to pad his stats.
 
Adam Henrique. 34 in February. 6'0" 195 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 19 points in 35 games with 9 points coming at even strength (7 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 5.825 mil. Pending UFA. He's -3 on a bad Anaheim team. 11:29 TOI at EV, 2:47 SH, 2:23 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 1.70. Faceoff %: 53.6.

Jason Dickinson. 29 in July. 6'2" 200 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 18 points in 36 games with all 18 coming at even strength (17 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 2.65 mil. Pending UFA. Somehow, he's a +9 on a bad Chicago team. 13:10 TOI at EV, 2:13 SH, 0:14 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 3.80. Faceoff %: 47.2.

Henrique will cost more to acquire and cost more in terms of retention to make him fit. Dickinson is bigger, younger and more productive. He isn't great on faceoffs, but he's still better than Chytil (43.3% this year) and Bonino/Peca may be able to help him get above 50%. He'll probably get a bit less ice time on the Rangers, but he isn't depending on PP points to pad his stats.

Dickinson makes a lot of sense
 
I would not exactly call Dickinson productive. He's having a nice year. He also has by FAR the highest sh% of his career both individually and on ice. This is a guy who over the prior 3 seasons was one of 7 forwards to play at least 2000 minutes at 5v5 with under 1 pt/6 (along with Glendening, Deslaurier, Martin, Faksa, Cogliano, Lewis).

Nothing in his profile seems to be any different this year except he's shooting 25% (7.8% in years prior).

He looks like the exact type of guys teams will significantly overpay for based on highly unsustainable numbers and then they'll regret it at the end of the year when he scores like 4 points in 20 games after the deadline.
 
This is the weirdest shit I've ever seen.

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A year and a half apart.
 
I like Dickinson at the right price. Would expect him to be anything more than a solid piece in the bottom 6 though.

I'll keep banging the drum for Othmann to get a chance. Doesnt cost us anything and his upside is a top 6 wing. Brodzinski is a good soldier but he doesnt need to be playing in the NHL.
 
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I would not exactly call Dickinson productive. He's having a nice year. He also has by FAR the highest sh% of his career both individually and on ice. This is a guy who over the prior 3 seasons was one of 7 forwards to play at least 2000 minutes at 5v5 with under 1 pt/6 (along with Glendening, Deslaurier, Martin, Faksa, Cogliano, Lewis).

Nothing in his profile seems to be any different this year except he's shooting 25% (7.8% in years prior).

He looks like the exact type of guys teams will significantly overpay for based on highly unsustainable numbers and then they'll regret it at the end of the year when he scores like 4 points in 20 games after the deadline.

Bonino has 5 points in 34 games while getting caved on possession. I'd take someone who could break even with possession and put up 4 points in 20 games while playing adequate defense and he's on pace for another 100 hit season so he isn't super bashful.
 
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Bonino has 5 points in 34 games while getting caved on possession. I'd take someone who could break even with possession and put up 4 points in 20 games while playing adequate defense and he's on pace for another 100 hit season so he isn't super bashful.

Except you're now going to pay for it because he's randomly scoring and it won't last. We saw this exact same thing with Lafferty last year. He got traded (with McCabe) for a 1st/2nd because he randomly got some great reputation and had 21 pts in 51 games. Then went to Toronto and did absolutely nothing and because a healthy scratch in the playoffs. He's been good this year though.

If you want a defensive player like that it's best to trade for one who isn't fluking his way to a good offensive season so you're not paying an excessive amount. For example, someone like a Girgensons.

And I highly doubt he would break even on possession. He hasn't done that there anyway. If you just swap him for Bonino I doubt you see much of a difference because current stats assign way too much weight to one particular player. The relative stats don't matter. He's not a good possession player just because the guys above him in Chicago's lineup are not which makes him look better comparatively. In any case, he's not going to replace Bonino as I've already shown how much Laviolette trusts him and I'm not going to get in to it again.
 
Except you're now going to pay for it because he's randomly scoring and it won't last. We saw this exact same thing with Lafferty last year. He got traded (with McCabe) for a 1st/2nd because he randomly got some great reputation and had 21 pts in 51 games. Then went to Toronto and did absolutely nothing and because a healthy scratch in the playoffs. He's been good this year though.

If you want a defensive player like that it's best to trade for one who isn't fluking his way to a good offensive season so you're not paying an excessive amount.

And I highly doubt he would break even on possession. He hasn't done that there anyway. If you just swap him for Bonino I doubt you see much of a difference because current stats assign way too much weight to one particular player. The relative stats don't matter. He's not a good possession player just because the guys above him in Chicago's lineup are not which makes him look better comparatively. In any case, he's not going to replace Bonino as I've already shown how much Laviolette trusts him and I'm not going to get in to it again.

I'm not interested in trading for him for a 2nd or higher, but a late round pick? I'd consider it.

He wouldn't be my first or second choice but he's not horrendous either.


As an aside, what if Pittsburgh blows it up and wants to clear cap space for this year and next and is willing to move on from Eller. The cost would likely be minimal. He'd be a really nice 3/4C for this year and next. Lots of playoff experience.
 
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He's horrendous defensively, always has been. I hope that's not the target. Id' prefer to go find a guy who can play some harder minutes and transport the puck.
When did you last watch him play? He's been good player this year on a bad team.

Sean Monahan isn't even good offensively. He's just bad at everything.
Tell me you haven't watched mtl without telling me you haven't watched mtl
 
When did you last watch him play? He's been good player this year on a bad team.


Tell me you haven't watched mtl without telling me you haven't watched mtl

Sure maybe he is having a good season on a bad team but even in his 'prime' in Calgary, he was never good defensive player, he wasn't physical and he was just kind of putting up points but never seen as a driver of the play. I haven't seen him this year, that is correct. I'll readily admit I haven't gone out of my way to watch a bad team. In saying that, he's not the type of player I'd be looking for
 
I'm not interested in trading for him for a 2nd or higher, but a late round pick? I'd consider it.

He wouldn't be my first or second choice but he's not horrendous either.


As an aside, what if Pittsburgh blows it up and wants to clear cap space for this year and next and is willing to move on from Eller. The cost would likely be minimal. He'd be a really nice 3/4C for this year and next. Lots of playoff experience.

Yea, a late pick is fine but generally these guys who randomly start scoring start getting all the media hype and traded for much more than they are worth. Eller would be a good target. Doubt he's cheap though. He got a 2nd round pick at the deadline last year and I don't see much reason why that would change this year.

Sure maybe he is having a good season on a bad team but even in his 'prime' in Calgary, he was never good defensive player, he wasn't physical and he was just kind of putting up points but never seen as a driver of the play. I haven't seen him this year, that is correct. I'll readily admit I haven't gone out of my way to watch a bad team. In saying that, he's not the type of player I'd be looking for

Also, on Monahan, a ton of his scoring is on the PP. He's doing very little at 5v5. That combined with his defensive play makes him a pretty bad target. He hasn't even been a productive 5v5 scorer in 6 years (no, I'm not including a 25 game sample last year).
 
I don't even know who Dickinson is. He has the most variance in underlying results I've ever seen. He just became my new favorite weird player.
Is Bedard carrying him?

When did you last watch him play? He's been good player this year on a bad team.


Tell me you haven't watched mtl without telling me you haven't watched mtl
I mean Monahan is horrible defensively, and he is not getting PP time here, so if come comes over his numbers are going to evaporate.

He's the completely wrong player type
 
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Quality of Teammates is a hell of a drug.

Ultimately, I'm not sure on Dickinson. He's an option, but I'd have to see the cost and I'd have to analyze him further.
Ehhh. I don't know if we have a place to put him. Think there are better options. Hes another guy; even if he isn't being carried by Bedard, he isn't touching that usage here. Hes a weird one.
 
seattle probably wont be selling but i would see what theyd want for Tatar if he becomes avail
 
Adam Henrique. 34 in February. 6'0" 195 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 19 points in 35 games with 9 points coming at even strength (7 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 5.825 mil. Pending UFA. He's -3 on a bad Anaheim team. 11:29 TOI at EV, 2:47 SH, 2:23 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 1.70. Faceoff %: 53.6.

Jason Dickinson. 29 in July. 6'2" 200 lbs. Lefty shot. Plays center and LW. 18 points in 36 games with all 18 coming at even strength (17 at 5 on 5). His cap hit is 2.65 mil. Pending UFA. Somehow, he's a +9 on a bad Chicago team. 13:10 TOI at EV, 2:13 SH, 0:14 PP. Scoring/60 at 5 on 5: 3.80. Faceoff %: 47.2.

Henrique will cost more to acquire and cost more in terms of retention to make him fit. Dickinson is bigger, younger and more productive. He isn't great on faceoffs, but he's still better than Chytil (43.3% this year) and Bonino/Peca may be able to help him get above 50%. He'll probably get a bit less ice time on the Rangers, but he isn't depending on PP points to pad his stats.
If nothing else I agree they shouldn't do 2nd+ or conditional 1st for Henrique.
 
If nothing else I agree they shouldn't do 2nd+ or conditional 1st for Henrique.

There's not a rental out there worth a first unless their intention is to extend Hanifin (yes) or Lindholm (bad idea)
 
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