Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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RangersFan1994

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I really don't see the need to go out and get a 40 goal guy. Would it be nice? Sure. But I think the team would be better served finding a couple of guys who don't mind the middle of the ice and can get to the other teams net and play sound defensive hockey. Center is going to be hard, I'm all aboard the Hayes train for reasons I've outlined previously. Apart from that, I like Girgensons as a depth center option.



Rather go after Novak, Bjugstad or McBain for that spot. Girgensons does not bring any offense and is more of a 4th liner. Not a 3rd line center
 
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There not a player readily available that I am interested in moving my 1st for.

Just not seeing tjat player out there and available

I'd consider it for Hanifan if the team re-signed him

Rather go after Novak, Bjugstad or McBain for that spot. Girgensons does not bring any offense and is more of a 4th liner. Not a 3rd line center

For me, that's the point of Girgensons. Cheap insurance policy at center. Get Hayes and Girgensons and you have (5) NHL centers
 

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Saw the rumor about Vatrano. He does check all the boxes.
True but He will cost a kings ransom especially since the retention will hit Ana next year as well, that alone is like an extra 3rd. I’d rather Kerfoot or Bjug through next year or Duclair may come cheaply enough. Cuylle, Mika, and Duclair sounds interesting to me.
 

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Dowd
Gourde
Jenner
Sturm
Kuraly
Kunin
Novak
Girgensons
Bjugstad
McBain
Hayes

All on my list for bottom 6 centers, Get 1 or 2 of these guys and the forward group is set.

Then focus on a difference maker on D. Trade Lindgren to make it work if you have to.
 
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For me, if Othmann develops into a better player than Kakko, I still see no reason to move a 3rd liner (Kakko) that is more than capable of 35+ points while being sound defensively.

I like the depth they would provide on the same team.

Depends what you can get back.

A rental, though, should not even be considered.
 
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Vince's article is hilarious.

There are maybe 3 people on this planet to can skate with MacKinnon. Unless you're adding those guys there is no one you can trade for who is going to really help enough there. Yes their speed was in display in the 1st period, but 90% of that was him. Most of the other teams out there (probably every other team out there) are not as fast, and their speed does not come in the form of MacK who is the front runner for the MVP.




Ah this is the approach you're gonna go with. I very much doubt that the person who you're trying to piggyback off of even read what you wrote lol.

You should rebrand as the headless horseman, your takes would make sense then.

Either way I've wasted enough time with you.
You missed the loint.
 
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I'd consider it for Hanifan if the team re-signed him]

Hes not cheap to acquire. 1st ++

[For me, that's the point of Girgensons. Cheap insurance policy at center. Get Hayes and Girgensons and you have (5) NHL centers

I like the idea of Hayes as well, but again, hes better than Monahan, so, expext 1st + at least.

I'm not convinced we should be making these sorts of moves this year.
 
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No he hasn’t… Brodzinski is a nightmare out there. Like every game every shift that he has to defend.

I guess you weren’t watching last night when in the 2nd the Zib line and D pair needed a line change badly and Brodzinski, who did get on the ice as the first change, couldn’t complete a 10’ pass as he was exiting his zone on the tape of his teammates stick who was open in the neutral zone leading to a turnover and then them getting pinned in their own end for high danger chances.

In the 3rd period, he is retrieving a dump-in in his own end in the corner to the right of Quick. He has Zac Jones coming back open that he could wheel it around to on the LW boards. Instead he attempts to chip to Gustafsson right in front of him in that corner with COL pressure coming on. Leads to a turnover.

This isn’t a one-off, this is all the time with him. He skates fast and that’s about it. He has garbage hands. Can’t make passes. Can’t defend. Kills possession. His “great” shot seemingly never goes in or misses the net for a turnover

Get that guy out of here.
It’s a good example of the eye test being a really poor measure of defensive impact/results
 

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I’d believe it given that that opened last nights game matching Goodrow against Mackinnon

MacK played 19 ES minutes and Goodrow played 8. Not exactly matching up there. Maybe they had a shift or 2 against them early but the majority of their play against each other must've been on the PK
 
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MacK played 19 ES minutes and Goodrow played 8. Not exactly matching up there. Maybe they had a shift or 2 against them early but the majority of their play against each other must've been on the PK
I think it was only in the 1st period they did some matching up of Mack vs good. Pl made the switch to start the second. I doubt it was a constant but after the goal PL started matching Mika vs Mack. Also the first had a lot of penalties so bg prob got matched more than normal. No idea where to find period by period break downs of ice time but would be interesting to see if there was a drop off for bg after the first
 

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I like the idea of Hayes as well, but again, hes better than Monahan, so, expext 1st + at least.

I'm not convinced we should be making these sorts of moves this year.

The Blues just traded for him for a 6th. I’m not expecting more than a 3rd or 4th based on his remaining term
 

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Re: Rental

For me, our 2026 3rd and Zac Jones are the only pieces on the table for a pure rental. Definitely bargain bin shopping with that capital.

There are a few "rental plus a year" players that I'd consider going up to our 2024 2nd for.
 

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Roslovic is the definition of an empty calorie player.

Jenner is simultaneously overrated and intriguing. You'd certainly have to give up Kakko+ to get him and ironically, I think he's the type of center Kakko would do his best work with.

Feel like hes the right type of player to pair with Kreider too but K-Z is a teflon combo. IF they're going to get guys and not break up bad combos, they might as well try to fill in those spots with cheaper options.
 

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The Blues just traded for him for a 6th. I’m not expecting more than a 3rd or 4th based on his remaining term

I think he's a good fit but I don't understand the purpose of it from the Blues perspective.

They are not in position to rebuild. Kyrou, Thomas, Schenn, Faulk, Krug, Parayko, Binnington are all signed for 3+ more years at 6M or above.

They have 0 upcoming UFAs with decent trade value. That includes Scandella who is a third pairing dman playing 13 mins a game making over 3M.

The only guy they have that isn't signed long term with big trade value is Buch who they don't necessarily have to deal now.

They are currently in a wild card position, with games in hand on the teams behind them, and the only real threats to their spot being Nashville and Seattle.

They don't have a center prospect who needs ice time in the NHL or someone who is capable of replacing him.

So with all of that what is their incentive to deal him now for like a 4th round pick? If they need to clear space to make a move in the off-season they can always do it then,

Trading Kakko and a 1st for Booner Jenner and Jack Roslovic is so asinine. Like, incredibly stupid. Would set the team back 5+ years

I mean Kakko has a pretty good chance of getting dealt at some point anyway. Just the way things are based on his production and contract status at this point. Trading him for a quality middle six center signed to a good deal for two more years seems to be a pretty good target. Roslovic is a waste of an add-in though. He's way overpaid which will cost them getting someone else and not very good.
 
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