Perhaps Drury watched the same 2019 playoffs that I did and saw a pretty good young player who has been held back by injuries.
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Kreider's a veteran player who's figured out how to play an 82 game season and beyond. He plays more minutes in an older body after a pretty serious health scare. I think it's improved his overall play and especially his durability not to be flying around everywhere all the time.
He's maybe not as fast as when he was 23 but I don't think he's much slower. He just picks his spots a lot more, and as you pointed out is a lot more committed to other aspects of the game. He's also lighter now than he was as a younger man fwiw.
Honestly, from my POV, 5 on 5 ice time is irrelevant.
Laf and Kakko will never develop — elite — ability to master the offensive zone, create offense, if they don’t play a good chunk of PP time per game. Sure, both had a lot of experience there up until they turned 18. But they can — of course — never maintain that ability if they don’t get to practice at it during games from when they are 18 to 21 or whatever.
haohmaru
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Drury has been doing a great job even if that doesn't fall in line with the mas0764 Stanley Cup Manifesto.
GENESISPuck94
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haohmaru
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Honestly, the most concerning thing so far this training camp period is Gallant saying Hunt has stood out the most. (Barf).
GENESISPuck94
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Did Gallant watch his own team in the 2022 playoffs where Lafreniere as one of the youngest players in the NHL playoffs was one of the most consistently active players the Rangers had in the playoffs despite the lack of ice time? Based on the decision he made before the game that ended our season, he didnt pay attention.
He's looking back years in the past at a guy who is now 26 years old and has less career goals than Lafreniere put up last year as a 20 year old.
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Why does Lindgren do that with his face? I assume that’s “ironic” facial hair?
I like Trouba’s hat.
I like Trouba’s hat.
Yeah but if you don’t PP (not PK), a kid like these guys don’t get to play enough to develop.
-It’s very rare that you get time with the puck 5 on 5, ever. Most of the time 5 on 5, you have at most one alternative with the puck and you take that. On the PP, you get time with the puck. You get to make those decisive decisions with the puck regularly.
It doesn’t work to expect a kid to become world class at solving a defense, making those decisions, if they get to make them once every third game or whatever. Then they pass on a shot and the coach hangs them.
-If you don’t PP or PK, you play, and then sit on the bench for like 8 minutes all of a sudden. Or get a shorter shift here or there. Then sure, 20 minutes go interrupted, but the flow is interrupted a lot.
-Like it or not, you are never getting away from a kid being drafted top 1-2 and not having very high expectations on themselves.
These kids really wants to perform and of course becomes equally frustrated when they don’t.
-These are kids that were 18 when we rushed them to the NHL, that results in that NYR becomes responsible for these kids development during super vital years.
->Look I just go by own experience playing, I know how it is. If you don’t play special teams, you can get like 2 pts in 2 games, but all of a sudden the next 3 games are played and you have nothing to show for it and you look back and it feels like you never really came close. Some game was all special teams, some game you mostly protects the lead, played a great team and was shut down or whatever, then perhaps one game you came close, but hey it’s hockey the marginals are really small and some games it’s the post and out instead of in.
Then you stand there with say 3 pts in 10 games. I’ve never been a top draft pick, but they will be aware that it’s not good, it’s horrible busy projection for a FOA pick.
One year becomes two years that becomes three years. Many here are saying — it’s not a problem. We can snooze their development, the most important thing is that they learn defense.
You don’t get a do-over in this league. But I said it when David Quinn were giving the PP time to Blackwell instead of these kids during the rebuilding years — this could cost us. There were obviously not sufficient knowledgeable persons in the organization to straight that out. Media around the NYR is 100% clueless about these things.
Well we are there again. I am not saying what is right or wrong, maybe we do it like last season again an wins a Cup. But we should be aware of the decision we make. Either we play a Laf or Kakko on the PP — or we really holds back and limit their development.
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From his limited time in our jersey, Ive seen a kid that has above average stick work and awareness in traffic, especially around the net.
I can see where against certain teams or in need of a momentum shift, Turk might want him and Kreider causing havoc down low while Ziba stays open for pop outs and redirects.
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Drury doesn't even work on the weekends and you think he's spending his offseason sitting at home watching playoff games his team isn't even involved in?
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You guys are never satisfied. This is the best team we’ve had in years
It’s very successful to play a fast game in the NHL right, but so much goes into that besides pure speed. Someone like Jason Chimera was super fast but never helped his line playing fast hockey.
In what way does Kreider’s speed help his line play a fast game? He isn’t fast to get in on the forecheck, more often than not he is the one who sits back instead. He never contributes with speed going up against a set defense. But he does contribute with his speed if he gets a step on a D. He will push Ds back with that speed, they won’t recover against him.
Sure, he got violent top speed. But he doesn’t make a team fast.
NYR Viper
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The uniqueness of Kreider has always been his combination is straight line speed along with his strength. There aren’t many guys who combine those two traits he employs. There are guys who faster or quicker than him but he’s still a pretty rare combination even 13 years after he was drafted.
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The issue Hunt has had, and will continue to have, is that he doesn’t PK. His style of play and skills that he employs in a limited role (speed, physical play, decent hands) make him an above average 4th line forward AT EVEN STRENGTH. The issue being, on this team, the Rangers employ Reaves whose also an even strength 4th liner. Most teams rely on their depth players to fill specific roles elsewhere to distribute ice time.
On this team, it’s tough for him to find time in the same role
On this team, it’s tough for him to find time in the same role
BobMarleyNYR
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He never could. He's really not that skilled of a player; all of his success comes from superior conditioning/sheer strength. He has not lost a step, and I don't think he will until his 50s. His hands/coordination will probably go before the speed, that's usually how it works with big, fast guys in good shape.
How many players do you know that can do anything McDavid can do?
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