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The problem with Rooney was that he was not good on defense or the PK. So in essence, he wasnt good at anything
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McRanger92
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You must think theyll be a lottery team because I wouldnt say "optimistic" is the prevailing sentiment from the most vocal on here
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I'll quibble over the entire 1.75M plus the extra cap we have to spend to keep another forward on the roster since he isn't good enough to play regularly.
So that's $3M we could make better use of.
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Worst comes to worst, not a bad year to be a lottery team anyway.
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A lot of people here prior to the preseason seemed to think this team would be just as good or better during the reg season. The mess of a preseason has people now being more reserved, but as I said in the prediction thread I think this is a wildcard team. IF they miss on the wildcard and miss the playoffs this becomes a very interesting story next summer bc this team almost certainly cannot survive with even nhl average goaltending, this thing would go from a fun ride in 22 to a grenade in 23 ha.
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I feel like people are severely over rating other teams and under rating ours.
There are MAJOR holes on all contenders. Everyone is top heavy. No one has the depth that we potentially do.
I still see our limitations as X's and O's coaching/system.... it's not a popular opinion but there's one man that can fix that with championship pedigree.... who's somewhat available.. just sayin
There are MAJOR holes on all contenders. Everyone is top heavy. No one has the depth that we potentially do.
I still see our limitations as X's and O's coaching/system.... it's not a popular opinion but there's one man that can fix that with championship pedigree.... who's somewhat available.. just sayin
It took me a second to think about who you’re talking about and then immediately say f that.
Boris Zubov
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You have a link? I can only find their later fights, not the 1st one. I didn't realize they fought more than once, actually.
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Their first fight was a part of the brawl that ended in Salo-Cloutier.
Boris Zubov
No relation to Sergei, Joe
I recall they fought earlier in that season, before the calendar turned to 1998. That feels like another lifetime ago however, so I could be totally blending memories together.
Nope, you're correct...just looked it up on hockeyfights.com
Good memory.
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I'm positive there are people here who would prefer that to a return to the playoffs
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I am one who believes this team will be as good or better than last year and literally nothing from the preseason showed me otherwise. People put way too much stock in preseason games for a team that just had a deep run in the playoffs and is expected to contend. If anything the young players look poised for breakouts, (sans Kravtsov who is getting an opportunity he doesn't deserve anyway). Could they get off to a slow start? Absolutely. But with Igor and the elite talent we have, they will have time to figure out their flaws in a vastly overrated Metro division
I think alot of pundits (ha) are vastly overestimating the health of the 2 older teams in the metro, and the devils goaltending...
The rangers only legit competition in the metro is the hurricanes, and im very doubtful about their additions.
Pacioretty is 32 and coming off a major surgery. Burns is 37.
The canes are heavily banking on Kotkaniemi actually being a top 6 player, which he hasn't been since his rookie year.
The lightning lost solid pieces of their roster to cap.
Toronto has an absolutely nightmare top 6, but there isn't a defenseman on that team I want on our top 4, and their goaltending is terrible.
Boston is solid and will make the playoffs but theyve got no depth what so ever.
Edm finally has goaltending. Still no secondary scoring or defense
Colorado lost its 2c and is hoping newhook will be that guy. Good chance he is, but its still risky.
CGY is actually impressive and could make a solid run.
LA is a team that's vets look ready to make a deep run, but their kids are worse than ours (Significantly).
I see this as an absolutely wide open window.
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I dont understand the love for Carolina. Every "expert" is putting them in the category with Colorado & Tampa Bay. How many different teams have to expose them in the playoffs before we realize they are overrated? I think they overcorrected on experience because of how immature they looked in the playoffs against us. Zero road wins in 2 7 game series.
Good take and I have the same hopes for the kids. Even if Laf potted some goals last season, they really did not contribute much. We can discuss how at this point, quite many either have been leaders of their team or up there in the top 20-30 in the NHL, and that isn’t coming if they don’t get PP etc.
BUT, with that said, we can certainly expect and hope for them to be much more of a force when they are on the ice. To be stronger individually.
I also think that this years Carolina might be very different from previous years Carolina.
I dont think its inexperience. I think its entirely the style the play, that forechecking pressure, only works in the regular season because it relies on depth to smother the opponent, and expects that in a single game they're not going to take the time to adjust to it.
Analytics loves them because they have depth, but at a certain point its not about JUST depth.
You need players who take over a game. And the rangers have 4 players who can absolutely do that right now, and 3 who I could see being able to do that this season.
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Stralman did earn a contract off that PTO for people who were wondering.
My take:
1. Ultimately, I think that we should be a team that wins home ice and once in the POs, we should compete in any series we play in.
2. I think we are pretty far from being more than that. Honestly, only 1-2 teams per year are more than the above. There aren’t many teams — per year — where you go ‘there are perhaps 3-4 teams that could win a PO series against them’. There are teams like Tampa, Pittsburgh when they won two in a row, then there are at best teams like Washington who won the cup after winning G7 in OT in the first round, in which they scored a goal just after the opponent rung one of the inside of the post. STL was the same. I think Colorado was pretty beatable, but sure, they were good.
Sometimes in the POs the draw ends up being one team playing another which fits that team really poorly. You get a 4-0 sweep. But that is something else.
3. Just as the top is really even in this league — so is the “bottom”. Any coach that is “confident” that his team even will make the POs and thinks they can afford to gamble in areas which might cost you points is a fool, unless that team’s division happens to be really weak. You can make those decisions, but they could come at a cost.
4. Just as we can do well — we can also do much worse than I think many “fear”. Players — are — injured a lot in this league. Confident swings fast. Etc etc etc.
If a team starts to struggle, many opponents will see a chance to keep knocking a competitor further from the race and gear up extra against that team.
5. Look, I am just sayings, take a team like NYI. They went deep in the POs concequtive years and aimed even higher last season, and ended up missing the POs by a mile.
6. But nothing of the above is any news. It’s how this league function with the hard cap.
7. What is important — more important than anything else, actually — is that we stay level headed and keeps steering the ship in the right direction without taking decisions that will cost us down the road.
Tampa won two cups in a row. Hedman, Stamkos and co made the ECF in 2010/2011. Missed the POs the following year. And they missed the POs the following year after that. Two years later, they made the Stanley Cup Finals, in 14/15. The year after they made the ECF. Before…MiSSING THE POs again in 16/17. Under Jon Cooper. With the entire gang. Kuch, Hedman, Vasy, Point, Killorn, TyJo, Yanni Gourde and so forth. Stamkos. Hedman won the cup on his 10 year anniversary after making the ECF the first time.
Tampa won two dominant Cup in the row because they stayed the course.
In NY, that patience is anything but a given.
1. Ultimately, I think that we should be a team that wins home ice and once in the POs, we should compete in any series we play in.
2. I think we are pretty far from being more than that. Honestly, only 1-2 teams per year are more than the above. There aren’t many teams — per year — where you go ‘there are perhaps 3-4 teams that could win a PO series against them’. There are teams like Tampa, Pittsburgh when they won two in a row, then there are at best teams like Washington who won the cup after winning G7 in OT in the first round, in which they scored a goal just after the opponent rung one of the inside of the post. STL was the same. I think Colorado was pretty beatable, but sure, they were good.
Sometimes in the POs the draw ends up being one team playing another which fits that team really poorly. You get a 4-0 sweep. But that is something else.
3. Just as the top is really even in this league — so is the “bottom”. Any coach that is “confident” that his team even will make the POs and thinks they can afford to gamble in areas which might cost you points is a fool, unless that team’s division happens to be really weak. You can make those decisions, but they could come at a cost.
4. Just as we can do well — we can also do much worse than I think many “fear”. Players — are — injured a lot in this league. Confident swings fast. Etc etc etc.
If a team starts to struggle, many opponents will see a chance to keep knocking a competitor further from the race and gear up extra against that team.
5. Look, I am just sayings, take a team like NYI. They went deep in the POs concequtive years and aimed even higher last season, and ended up missing the POs by a mile.
6. But nothing of the above is any news. It’s how this league function with the hard cap.
7. What is important — more important than anything else, actually — is that we stay level headed and keeps steering the ship in the right direction without taking decisions that will cost us down the road.
Tampa won two cups in a row. Hedman, Stamkos and co made the ECF in 2010/2011. Missed the POs the following year. And they missed the POs the following year after that. Two years later, they made the Stanley Cup Finals, in 14/15. The year after they made the ECF. Before…MiSSING THE POs again in 16/17. Under Jon Cooper. With the entire gang. Kuch, Hedman, Vasy, Point, Killorn, TyJo, Yanni Gourde and so forth. Stamkos. Hedman won the cup on his 10 year anniversary after making the ECF the first time.
Tampa won two dominant Cup in the row because they stayed the course.
In NY, that patience is anything but a given.
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Pierre Lebrun says Rangers and Islanders would potentially been in on Kane. I don't see how he thinks the Rangers are going to add three depth d-men at the deadline.
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bleedblue94
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So then what are you talking about in your original reply, why did you even post the first reply? I said they may end up playing under expectations around here and you replied to me saying I must expect them to be a lottery team bc people weren't being overly optimistic, then on your next reply you post that you think this team will be as good or better than last year. That sure seems like you're being optimistic with high expectations haha
Sooo Patty Kane is going to be RW next to Trocheck and Panarin at the deadline. Almost a given. Kravtsov going the other way in the deal. If he can stay healthy…
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