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Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIX: Going 11-3 to close out this crazy year should do it!

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Raspewtin said:
if we're going for a big mean LHD, trade for Nemeth. Oleksiak is just whatever, not worth what he's gonna get as a UFA

just getting rid of Hajek and Smith will be such a massive upgrade. They're so awful.
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Nemeth is a UFA so he could be had for cash

I expect the team to sign some sort of veteran LD, just not sure how much they’re willing to spend. Smith is a good 6/7 but I’d suspect they would want someone a little better
 
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EdJovanovski said:
Isles fans have some vehement hatred for Kravtsov :laugh: they're talking about him like he's some freak of nature LMAO

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I’m glad they argue about our prospects as much as we do
 
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TheDirtyH said:
The veteran players on the team did not have the intensity level necessary to beat the Islanders. It wasn't an issue of youth. The third and fourth lines were our most effective start to finish.
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I don't think it is an intensity issue, but a fatigue issue. The top guys are logging too many minutes in these games. That in part is because the 3rd defensive pairing is bad and Quinn does not trust the 3rd line to hold it's own. The game on Sunday was a back to back and he leaned on his top 6 and top 4 defense too much. You go into that next game against a much better team, not on a 3rd in 4 nights, and you've got a top 6 and top 4 that is gassed. You also cannot roll your 4th line with Howden on it without getting your shit pushed in.

Quinn needs to trust the 3rd line more, especially when they have a lead. If he cannot trust that line, he needs to change that line. There is no reason that in a 2nd of back to backs against the Devils that Lafreniere is getting 9 minutes, Chytil 8 minutes, Kravtsov 10 minutes, and Kakko 11 minutes. Fox played 27 minutes on Sunday. I love that Fox is the guy on defense. It bodes well for the future of the team. It doesn't bode well for this current team that he has to log that much time in a game against the Devils on the 2nd half of a back to back.

In a normal regular season, the schedule is not condensed. You have off days to rest these guys. There is a reason why teams with actual depth are at the top of the league this season, it's because by now if you have been leaning on your top guys every single game, they are going to be exhausted. No matter the level of conditioning they have, that will be the case.

Moving forward, this should not be an issue, but right now, it's probably the biggest reason they are in the hunt for a playoff spot, but the reason why they won't make it.
 
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Problem with the 3rd pair is that you can't use them in any meaningful situation. They're both bad PKers. They can't take any PP time unless you want to throw the game away. They're horrible in zone defenders so you can't use them reliably on defensive zone draws or late in game. So all of the taxing minutes go to the rest of the top 4 when in reality you don't really need Fox to be your top PKer or to run your 2nd pair on the PP and PK.

Please if they do anything fix the bottom pair this summer. This can't continue.

Oscar Lindberg said:
Nemeth is a UFA so he could be had for cash

I expect the team to sign some sort of veteran LD, just not sure how much they’re willing to spend. Smith is a good 6/7 but I’d suspect they would want someone a little better
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Smith isn't even that anymore imo.

TheDirtyH said:
Would love to see a nemeth-lundkvist pair
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Swedish pals!
 
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So many people already assuming Jones will win a spot next season. I don't think he's physically ready. He should have stayed in college one more year. Would love to be wrong, but I'm anticipating we will see a kid that is overwhelmed by the size and speed of the game.
 
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The New Russian Five said:
So many people already assuming Jones will win a spot next season. I don't think he's physically ready. He should have stayed in college one more year. Would love to be wrong, but I'm anticipating we will see a kid that is overwhelmed by the size and speed of the game.
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And honestly, right now, Miller isn't as good as people think he is. Tons of potential but I'm talking right now.

I don't know how we would do it but I'd love to add some competition at LHD. Not somebody expensive who's going to play over the kids no matter what, but somebody who's not Libor Hajek or Anthony Bitetto.

Does that player exist? Who knows, but I don't want to just hand those spots in the lineup over.

Kids *should* earn spots on the lineup. Where I get frustrated with Quinn is that he thinks earning a spot in the lineup means playing behind veterans until you reach an arbitrary age like they do in college.
 
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Machinehead said:
And honestly, right now, Miller isn't as good as people think he is. Tons of potential but I'm talking right now.

I don't know how we would do it but I'd love to add some competition at LHD. Not somebody expensive who's going to play over the kids no matter what, but somebody who's not Libor Hajek or Anthony Bitetto.

Does that player exist? Who knows, but I don't want to just hand those spots in the lineup over.

Kids *should* earn spots on the lineup. Where I get frustrated with Quinn is that he thinks earning a spot in the lineup means playing behind veterans until you reach an arbitrary age like they do in college.
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You're right, he isn't good right now, he's great.
 
Kovalev27 said:
It’s going to be Jones and Lundkvist with Brendan Smith sprinkled in there

they aren’t going ufa shopping
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I don't think they'll go with those 2. Not only is it an all rookie pairing, it's a tiny one.

Unless they split up the other pairs, I don't see how they'd try to work both in. I'm not even convinced they work one in next year.
 
In Miller's defense, I never thought he and Trouba made sense as a pair.

Lindgren-Trouba is a great pair and Fox could play with me, so I don't know why they don't flip them.
 
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Pretty much every youth started the season exactly where they are going to end it. None of that changes by the Rangers giving coaching more vets to play in front of them, or on special teams instead of them.
 
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Rangers have been playing great..ok the debbies who cares .....I love this team and next year is gonna start something special. I tell you when I watch 74 he looks like a Center...... is there a way to move him without messing him up?
 
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Machinehead said:
And honestly, right now, Miller isn't as good as people think he is. Tons of potential but I'm talking right now.

I don't know how we would do it but I'd love to add some competition at LHD. Not somebody expensive who's going to play over the kids no matter what, but somebody who's not Libor Hajek or Anthony Bitetto.

Does that player exist? Who knows, but I don't want to just hand those spots in the lineup over.

Kids *should* earn spots on the lineup. Where I get frustrated with Quinn is that he thinks earning a spot in the lineup means playing behind veterans until you reach an arbitrary age like they do in college.
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Yup, we definitely need to find a way to bring in a veteran LHD that actually has a chance of being a #6 dman and can maybe move up in the lineup in case of injuries. Unlike this past off-season with johnson. I know we had cap issues but that was a miserable signing. I don't mind sending jones or hajek or whoever else we have to Hartford to get more minutes down there until they get their chance with the rangers. Lundkvist I assume has no competition. Plus I believe he could just wait out another year and become an FA right? So our hands are tied so to speak for RHD.
 
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Machinehead said:
In Miller's defense, I never thought he and Trouba made sense as a pair.

Lindgren-Trouba is a great pair and Fox could play with me, so I don't know why they don't flip them.
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i think fox would have to be less aggressive offensively if they put him with miller. miller can be overly aggressive, so he needs a more stay at home defender with him in case of a bad pinch et al. I mean you’ll sometimes see fox behind the opponent’s net, which is far less frequent for miller.

I just think trouba compliments miller’s game really well. I would like to see a big step from miller next year. miller’s size has hidden a ton of mistakes, as even if he’s beat, his reach often makes up for it.
 
cheech70 said:
Rangers have been playing great..ok the debbies who cares .....I love this team and next year is gonna start something special. I tell you when I watch 74 he looks like a Center...... is there a way to move him without messing him up?
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Probably right now would be a good time to experiment since we basically are all but eliminated from the playoff race.
 
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