Speculation: Seth Jones says he's talking with the Blackhawks about the possibility of a trade

[Sinbad]

How much would the Hawks have to retain for :

1- a team to take him for free?
2- a team to pay a late 1st for him?

I think there's too much term/money left for them to buy him out.

Another option could be to take a bad contract back. But, I don't see many contracts as bad out there...

The Hawks will not retain on Jones just to give him away for no return, he is still a very useful player despite what the either uneducated or biased fan thinks. So no team will “take him for fee” because that is not an option.

iF the Hawks retain more than $1m per season, the return to Chicago will greater than a 1st round pick. Again, Jones is a big, mobile, RHD who plays 25+ minutes a game in all situations. Those players are difficult to find and have value.

 

[Budz]

I thought the Hawks were already using the max retention spots.

Am I wrong on that?

 

[thegazelle]

I don't know - I am kind of tired of these athletes like Jones who, in this case is being overpaid, complain about their teams. I don't recall hearing this at all when I was a kid - players kept their opinions to themselves and / or kept it within the team. I don't know if it's social media or ungrateful overpaid athletes, but it seems in many sports, we see this type of thing - public dissatisfaction with how a team is managing a rebuild, losing patience and then demanding a trade. This seems to happen quite often in the NBA and NFL.

If I was another team I would take a long hard look at what I am getting. There are players who play on just awful teams through thick and thin, and work to improve the team through their play and contributions rather than demand a trade, discuss a trade, etc. Jones had promise at one point a long time ago - I think his play has regressed, but it's his attitude that would make me, if I was a GM, reconsider whether the juice is worth the squeeze.

 

[M88K]

I thought the Hawks were already using the max retention spots.

Am I wrong on that?

they have 1 spot open, and get 2 back next year (3 is the limit)

 

[Budz]

they have 1 spot open, and get 2 back next year (3 is the limit)

My bad - I thought it was 2.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I don't know - I am kind of tired of these athletes like Jones who, in this case is being overpaid, complain about their teams. I don't recall hearing this at all when I was a kid - players kept their opinions to themselves and / or kept it within the team. I don't know if it's social media or ungrateful overpaid athletes, but it seems in many sports, we see this type of thing - public dissatisfaction with how a team is managing a rebuild, losing patience and then demanding a trade. This seems to happen quite often in the NBA and NFL.

If I was another team I would take a long hard look at what I am getting. There are players who play on just awful teams through thick and thin, and work to improve the team through their play and contributions rather than demand a trade, discuss a trade, etc. Jones had promise at one point a long time ago - I think his play has regressed, but it's his attitude that would make me, if I was a GM, reconsider whether the juice is worth the squeeze.

I identify with this. The Hawks were willing to step up and sign him to this albatross of a deal and they will rightly want a return. Problem is that his cap hit is tough to digest and the pro scouts watching his lack of engagement, won't have glowing reports.

This is not a guy I would want to go to war with but as long as he's not counted on for too much, he could help some teams.