Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIII: Free Agent Frenzy

[Off Sides]

There’s a tool on capfriendly to sort by UFA from no QO. 129 players.

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thanks, I spend most of the day with that site open in a tab, have messed with it a bunch, and never figured that out.

 

[Richard Banger]

Now we should buy out Lundqvist? Never change RB.

If he's trash this year and Igor and Geo are good. Then yes it should definitely be considered. We're trying to win not be nostalgic. If hank in net doesn't work cut him loose.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Where would Fox go in a re-draft?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Where would Fox go in a re-draft?

Top-15

 

[Leetch3]

We are not the Leafs.

While they bottomed out and ended up with Marner and Matthews, also getting Nylander and Kapanen, they dont have the goaltending or had addressed the defense in the process.

We have been doing that.

we are not the leafs as far as building a much more balanced team...but at the same time when talking about future cap issues that might be worse. if they are in cap hell with a few big $$ guys and not much else, what happens when we have a few big $$ guys plus a number of dmen making decent money and depth...its a problem I look forward to happening but if our young players pan out the cap could become very interesting in a few years

 

[Kovalev27]

If he's trash this year and Igor and Geo are good. Then yes it should definitely be considered. We're trying to win not be nostalgic. If hank in net doesn't work cut him loose.

Ducks bought out perry and he’s a Cup winner. I agree if it’s another lousy season for him and he’s outplayed it is what it is. He has the option of retiring gracefully if he so chose. And I’m sure management would retire his jersey and give him a cushy job immediately

 

[Ola]

Eric Lindros?

I think he reminds me the most of Vinny Lecavalier, the version that won the M. Richard trophy of course.

But who knows what the ceiling is for this kid. He is unique like Hedman also was in that sense.

He could run away with the FOA spot despite tough competition, or not. We will see. There are many special kids in that draft.

 

[Leetch3]

If he's trash this year and Igor and Geo are good. Then yes it should definitely be considered. We're trying to win not be nostalgic. If hank in net doesn't work cut him loose.

first we are trying to build a winner...not necessarily trying to win next year. and hate to see his career end this way but I gotta be honest, a season of our younger players playing well but we end up with a top pick cause hank is giving away points might be the best case scenario long term lol.

but it has nothing to do with nostalgia...its about treating arguably the greatest ranger ever with respect. not that anyone is more important than the team, but hank is still different than other players imo. so it makes it a tougher decision. he's my favorite player and I'd love nothing more than for him to agree to a trade tomorrow and finish his career on a contender but you can't run him out of town...

and then of course there is also the issue of dead cap space...a buyout now has 4 years of dead space. a buyout next year only has 2

 

[Fitzy]

Top-15

The 2016 draft is looking pretty good rn so I wouldn't go that far until he steps on NHL ice.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

You were adamant fast was not an NHL player when he was like 22/23. You can't say, after several seasons of him playing key roles in lengthy playoff runs, that your predictions were right.

In fact, you were utterly wrong.

For anyone who liked Jan Erixon like me, Fast is just fine in his role.

 

[TheBPA]

The 2016 draft is looking pretty good rn so I wouldn't go that far until he steps on NHL ice.

He doesn’t get a lot of love on here, but for what it’s worth Pronman had Fox at #9 in a 2016 redraft.

 

[offdacrossbar]

i feel bad i really do, but i dont disagree with RB at all. hank may well be the 3rd best goalie in camp.

with georgie and shesty both here, my tolerance for temperamental hank showing frustration on the ice after giving up bad goals is waining. a lot.

if he looks like the last few years henrik again this year, ill be looking for a reduced role or a trade by mid season. at 37, its inevitable.

hes the king, for sure, but his time has probably come and odds aren't in his favor.

this rebuild also includes moving onto the next great nyr net minder.

 

[True Blue]

If he's trash this year and Igor and Geo are good. Then yes it should definitely be considered. We're trying to win not be nostalgic. If hank in net doesn't work cut him loose.

Now we are buying out Henke? First of all, the chances of that, to quote Dean Wormer, are zero point zero. Second of all, to quote Memphis Raines, any one thinking that is going to happen needs to have their decision making powers be revoked for a while.

 

[Avery16]

Ducks bought out perry and he’s a Cup winner.

So is Del Zotto, but I don’t think we should sign either

 

[Kovalev27]

So is Del Zotto, but I don’t think we should sign either

Comparing del Zotto to what perry was to the Ducks is ridiculous brother

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

i feel bad i really do, but i dont disagree with RB at all. hank may well be the 3rd best goalie in camp.

with georgie and shesty both here, my tolerance for temperamental hank showing frustration on the ice after giving up bad goals is waining. a lot.

if he looks like the last few years henrik again this year, ill be looking for a reduced role or a trade by mid season. at 37, its inevitable.

hes the king, for sure, but his time has probably come and odds aren't in his favor.

this rebuild also includes moving onto the next great nyr net minder.

I mean....a buy out could make sense. I'd rather wait to see how the season plays out.

But complaining about Lundqvist's temperament, please. No matter what people complain on here. If he doesn't show enough emotion, or if he shows too much. I prefer players that actually care when they play poorly.

 

[Hire Sather]

Lundqvist's Rangers career is not going to end with a buyout.

Just stop

 

[GregSirico]

Where would Fox go in a re-draft?

Top 10 probably.

 

[Gardner McKay]

From the Athletic this morning:

NOTES: Gorton said he had spoken to representatives for a number of free agents-to-be but as of yet doesn’t have any face-to-face interviews scheduled. The interviewing window for prospective free agents began Sunday. Players cannot agree to terms or be signed until July 1.

Wonder what that means for breadman.

 

[Avery16]

Comparing del Zotto to what perry was to the Ducks is ridiculous brother

‘Was’ being the key word here

 

[Kovalev27]

From the Athletic this morning:



Wonder what that means for breadman.

Hmm this contradicts what others have reported. This was technically from yesterday Carp tweeted later that day rangers did have a meeting scheduled with panarin for this week

 

[gravey9]

I'm now leaning towards not signing Panarin. I think a Panarin contract is just too risky before we know how some of the kids turn out.

The biggest issue with a Panarin deal is the precedent. What happens in 3 years if Kravtsov and Kakko are viewed as equally important as Panarin? How are we going to pay 3x 12m contracts on the same team -- and on 3 wingers no less. That's the pretty much the issue plaguing the Leafs. The Matthews contract meant Nylander and Marner would need to get paid in a similar stratosphere. It meant having to give up a first rounder just to dump Marleau's 10m.

This is also why I've come around on the idea of trading Kreider in addition to no Panarin. With the D now flush, the Rangers need to build out the rest of the young forwards. Trades involving Kreider, Vesey and Namestnikov should be about bringing in young forwards and picks. (and in some cases, opening up Roster spots). Kreider and maybe Buch and Lundqvist are the last 3 chips we can use to stock up on young assets (aside from slowly building through draft).

On a completely separate note. There are lots of different lessons you can take from this years playoffs. Here's one take I haven't really heard. While it's a fact that the Blues and Bruins were the two heaviest teams in the playoffs, one could argue that the thing that really set them apart from the rest of the league was the strength of their Defense corps to get the puck out of their own zone. Both teams had multiple big-bodied skilled defensemen that had the ability to stop the forecheck dead in its tracks and get the play going back the other way.

Neither team was particularly deep when it comes to elite forwards. One could argue that both were really one-line teams. But both teams were really deep on the back end. From that perspective, the Rangers rebuild seems better than most teams. They are really flush with different types of D-men at this point. Small skilled puck movers (TDA, Fox, Lundkvist, Reunanen, Jones) and Large Bodied, strong skating, skilled guys (trouba, miller, skjei, robertson rykov, hajek). If one or more of these kids really peak offensively -- then we could very well have a d core that rivals the SC Finals teams from this year.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

From the Athletic this morning:



Wonder what that means for breadman.

Wow, interesting. Nothing scheduled yet. We are only a few days away.

 

[offdacrossbar]

I mean....a buy out could make sense. I'd rather wait to see how the season plays out.

But complaining about Lundqvist's temperament, please. No matter what people complain on here. If he doesn't show enough emotion, or if he shows too much. I prefer players that actually care when they play poorly.

buyout off hank won't happen. ever. hell retire or agree to a trade.

as far as his temperament goes, im torn. i have enormous respect for hank. hes been off the charts for so long and he was at times the best goalie in the world but times change. i love his fire and emotion but at times its a negative. hes rattled easier now and his reactions sometimes are uncomfortable to watch.

the mask thing, the temper tantrums and the weak goals all have taken a toll.

at 37 the odds of him playing at that level again are slim.

 

[Kovalev27]

@Edge Friedman reporting the hold up between Colorado and Kreider wasn’t the 16th pick as you reported. Nicely done. Colorado didn’t want to give it up deal between them most likely dead. Also doesn’t believe panarin to Colorado is even a thought. He was the last one to put this out there but he also believes it’s Fla or one of the NY teams for panarin.

So it’s fla or us