Speculation: Roster Building Thread III (2019/2020) - Tick Tock

[pld459666]

Kakko is not getting first line minutes right away. He's going to be a middle six winger with PP time until he learns the league and DQ trust him defensively.

That will take at least until 25-30 games in if not more.

I am gonna disagree.

Hes an offensive player and will be put with our two best offensive players.

If hes better than expected, then I expect that he will then get a look at playing with and bringing up other offensive players like Kravtsov and Chytil

 

[mrhockey193195]

Yeah, I was more or less thinking about combinations when splitting up Panarin and Zib for more balance I guess. Lots of combinations especially if certain players that can play multiple positions step it up. I honestly have no idea what to make of Strome... place holder for 2C or is he on the 4th line? And where is Namestnikov playing, lol? I think he and along with Kreider are gone by the deadline... I think there will be teams bidding for Kreider, Namestnikov not so much but again if Quinn puts the right players together then perhaps they pump up their value even more. We'll see what happens.

Ah, of course I forgot Namestnikov! I actually think he fits well as the LW on Chytil's line...Vlad-Chytil-Buch as a third line would be fantastic. Not sure who sits in this scenario though...

 

[Mikos87]

The thing about Kreider being a deadline asset is that you can bid teams against each other for him

Especially teams who will face each other in the playoffs.

That's where you drive up the price, especially with retention.

He is absolutely on my trade list.

He can be re-signed as a ufa.

For those of you who are really attached to him:

How much more would you guys like him if he brought in a great return in a trade and re-signed?

 

[LORDE]

Better trade those kids before we need to re-sign them to big contracts.

Easter is quickly approaching...

sept, oct, nov, December, Jan, feb, March, April.

Tick tock tick tock

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Easter is quickly approaching...

sept, oct, nov, December, Jan, feb, March, April.

Tick tock tick tock

I'm already looking forward to my Montreal trip in June

 

[kovazub94]

Either kravstov will be on the third or the 2nd and vice versa for kakko. Remember, quinn loves to make his players earn their spot. The good thing about rebuilding is you have time to figure out whats what. With the addituon of panarin and trouba as a cushion, we can ease these guys in. I personally think kakko will take the 2nd spot and kravstov will take his spot on the 2nd if kakko moves up the line. Ive always liked buch but hes not on the same talent level as either of those two. This season is our first where we are now done with acquiring assets (unless kreider trade or names or strome) and trying to find what gels with our team. The year after, i believe smith will be moved bc he has only one year left and then we will try to contend next season. This season is essentially a hunger games for who will win what spot and then who will gel with whom.

Two interesting points in your points, the second is more implicit.

First, I’m sure Panarin and Zibanejad will get a chance to play together but I’m just as sure they will also get a chance to show what they could do apart and let other teams with a decision against whom to send out their 1st pair D.

In regard to the other point I also posted that at this point it’s quite likely that only one of Kappo or Kravtsov will be in top-6. However your have an interesting idea of this being for the same specific spot, thus creating an internal competition against each other. At 18/19 I’m sure it’s psychologically easier to compete against another teenager. At the same time two blue chip prospects pushing each other is what we would want to see them do to continue developing and sharpening their high end skills and also not allowing complacency.

 

[LORDE]

I'm already looking forward to my Montreal trip in June

I’ll be there in Oct actually

 

[Leetch3]

Line combos are all TBD based on 1) how ready the kids are and 2) what kind of matchups you want them to have early on...

Early on they could definitely keep kakko off the top line to avoid facing the other teams top pair

 

[eco's bones]

I’m not sure Kravtsov will be at Buch’s level immediately or even by the end of the season. Your lineup suggests that both K & K are among top-6 but I think at least one (maybe taking turns) will be protected facing lesser opposition on a third line.

Maybe not but if not I think it's a matter of time before Kravtsov is a better player than Buch. Lines fluctuate too. A line starts to struggle and someone replaces someone else. The solid top 6 guys right now are Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Kakko. Buch, Kravtsov, Chytil and maybe Strome should all get some top 6 time.

 

[kovazub94]

Maybe not but if not I think it's a matter of time before Kravtsov is a better player than Buch. Lines fluctuate too. A line starts to struggle and someone replaces someone else. The solid top 6 guys right now are Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Kakko. Buch, Kravtsov, Chytil and maybe Strome should all get some top 6 time.

I expect Buchnevich to pick it up where he left off at the end of last season. Would give it more than 50% chance (MLTN for tax people) that it will be his level for good long stretches of the season. It would be great if Kravtsov is at that level by the end of the season but it would be pretty amazing.

And so Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider are close to guaranties. Then Buch. Just one of K or K and then just one of Chytil or Strome given a need for one more C.

 

[leetch99]

The coach should go first, in my opinion. That team is pretty deep but somehow it never clicks. But maybe I'm just missing something.

Goaltending is just fair at the best of times....

 

[Avery16]

I think Brooks got his feelings hurt with all the fan pushback on his Shattenkirk prediction/leak (which happened to be accurate). Even with things as slow as they are, he’d at least have a slapshots article here and there.

 

[eco's bones]

I expect Buchnevich to pick it up where he left off at the end of last season. Would give it more than 50% chance (MLTN for tax people) that it will be his level for good long stretches of the season. It would be great if Kravtsov is at that level by the end of the season but it would be pretty amazing.

And so Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider are close to guaranties. Then Buch. Just one of K or K and then just one of Chytil or Strome given a need for one more C.

Hopefully Buch will. As far as our team is concerned he's not a kid anymore. He's one of the vets--meaning he needs to take on more responsibility and start moving towards being a leader---but his second half was really good last year so hopefully he maintains at least that level--even better if he improves off of it.

 

[aufheben]

Line combos are all TBD based on 1) how ready the kids are and 2) what kind of matchups you want them to have early on...

Early on they could definitely keep kakko off the top line to avoid facing the other teams top pair

I mean he’s not gonna play against chumps on the 2nd line. Zibanejad can pick up the slack and keep everything composed. Although frankly I think Kakko is just going to be a nightmare for defensemen of any ages and experience.

 

[bobbop]

The problem with holding on to Kreider to the deadline is that he is a leader (the leader IMO) of this team. If the Rangers are 12 points out of a playoff spot, not a huge deal. If they are 4 points clear and getting better and better, it’s a huge deal.

They made be able to get a better deal at the deadline. It could come at a big cost.

IMO, I believe the Rangers are pushing hard to make one kind of deal or another right now.

 

[SA16]

We already have Marc Staal how many leaders does this team need?

 

[ncmike]

I predict 14 G. 24 A. 72 Points.

Come At Me Bro.

H

I predict 14 G. 24 A. 72 Points.

Come At Me Bro.

hope your a bank teller because I want to get on your line

 

[Leetch3]

I mean he’s not gonna play against chumps on the 2nd line. Zibanejad can pick up the slack and keep everything composed. Although frankly I think Kakko is just going to be a nightmare for defensemen of any ages and experience.

Not chumps but not top pair guys or the other teams checking line. Kid has a lot of things to adjust to on and off the ice so giving him favorable match ups early isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I don’t think we’ll need to shelter him for long though

 

[kovazub94]

The problem with holding on to Kreider to the deadline is that he is a leader (the leader IMO) of this team. If the Rangers are 12 points out of a playoff spot, not a huge deal. If they are 4 points clear and getting better and better, it’s a huge deal.

They made be able to get a better deal at the deadline. It could c9me at a big cost.

IMO, I believe the Rangers are pushing hard to make one kind of deal or another right now.

If they are 4 points away it means overall things will be moving in the right direction in terms of prospects development and hopefully the front office will be able to rationally weight toward long term goals over short term success.

 

[MrPodz]

I think names could workout great with kakko and kreider. Obviously spot is up for grabs but hes a passer and rangers didnt have finishers. We always had too many playmakers and I think that we should give him a look at 2c as well. Plus if he excels, we might even flip him for more than a 3rd, which was probably his value this season.

 

[NYRFAN218]

I think Brooks got his feelings hurt with all the fan pushback on his Shattenkirk prediction/leak (which happened to be accurate). Even with things as slow as they are, he’d at least have a slapshots article here and there.

It's August. Usually around this time he's either writing baseball articles or on vacation. There's pretty much nothing to talk about at this point in the summer.

 

[charliemurphy]

The problem with holding on to Kreider to the deadline is that he is a leader (the leader IMO) of this team. If the Rangers are 12 points out of a playoff spot, not a huge deal. If they are 4 points clear and getting better and better, it’s a huge deal.

They made be able to get a better deal at the deadline. It could c9me at a big cost.

IMO, I believe the Rangers are pushing hard to make one kind of deal or another right now.

And you lost me.
Can't tell you how many games I've been to where I've seen Kreider circle around his own end as if waiting for things to happen then return to the bench and watch a replay on an iPad. I don't know what happens inside the locker room but Kreider isn't exactly a leading by example type of player much less a leader. Too inconsistent and vanishes for games at a time as if he needs an incentive to play with an edge which is when he's most effective. Having said that, I hope he puts up similar numbers from last season if not better and Gorton's phone blows up.

 

[bobbop]

I think Brooks got his feelings hurt with all the fan pushback on his Shattenkirk prediction/leak (which happened to be accurate). Even with things as slow as they are, he’d at least have a slapshots article here and there.

Larry is on vacation

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I too would rather split Zibanejad and Panarin but Kreider-Chytil-Kravtsov or whomever could be a really, really good line. Kravtsov has the makings of a controlled zone entry God and if that isn't working, Kreider's basically a machine at retrieving pucks that are dumped into the offensive zone.

Best case scenario has Kravtsov beast off the bat enough to "carry" the 3rd line against lighter competition. He should be getting a boat load of PP time on that top unit though.

 

[MrPodz]

Isnt it fun when we have so many tools at our teams disposal? Two years ago, we had old mercs for hire and now we have young guns at the ready. Also, any info on analytics department?