Kaapo Cabana
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I’d be willing to part with a 2nd for a rental. Especially if we’re retaining our 1sts
Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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You're comparing all strengths stuff again.
Dadonov 5v5 sh% the last four years:
9.0
16.4
8.4
7.3
Before that it was higher but he was also younger/better. He's been in this range 3 of the last 4 years. He'd be a fine add for cheap though.
It's the lowest but hardly way out of line. His PP sh% is irrelevant as he won't have a relevant PP role here anyway.
Machinehead
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I dream of a day when we don't have to add two wingers at the deadline to have a functioning forward corps.
We would probably need to add 2 centers instead.
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Also, we would still have a hole at RW even if Kakko were Jaromir Jagr.
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The universe owes the Rangers a Cup with Tarasenko scoring the Cup winning goal to right that wrong.
To be fair there's like maybe 2 teams in the league that dont need 2 forwards up front
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Machinehead
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I can kind of figure this out.
The Line Tool on Natural Stat Trick has spreads vs different opponents.
I can just set up a line of Panarin and Cuylle, look at "Panarin w/o Cuylle" and that's basically Panarin's entire season. He's played 10 seconds with Cuylle.
I got tricks. I will report my findings.
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We'd have to get a lot better at roster construction
It's whatever- most teams are in the same situation
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We'd have to get a lot better at playing in a league where teams are allowed to spend money, to be fair.
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It's all so tiresome
Erne does, Barbashev is ok but not the guy I'd look to fill a role on the 1sr or 2nd line
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Again I think the difference that will end up benefitting us in the long run is the fact that unlike from 2012-2015 when we were talking about needing to fill a need in star-power, for which the expensive Nash, Richards, Yandle, and MSL acquisitions were- now we have the star power and mostly need to provide depth for the roster. This is much cheaper on the rental budget.
We currently have 8 players who have the talent to take over a playoff series.
Now the point of the deadline isnt' to acquire someone who can do that. Now its to ensure we don't have any weakness in our lines and bottom pair.
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Ok so, it's on me to choose a relevant sample of "playoff competition."
I have chosen our games against Carolina, New Jersey, Boston, and Vegas. Carolina and NJ are the two best teams in the division. Boston because Boston. Vegas because they're good, we've played them twice, and we beat up on them - I kind of want to be fair to Panarin to get an accurate sample, so I chose a team we scored against.
In those games, our imaginary line of Panarin-Cuylle (so just Panarin) scored 4 goals at even strength and conceded 6 in 8 total games.
In those games Panarin has 5 even strength points according to NHL.com on 4 even strength goals, which is fun. The only way that happens is on an empty netter, which NHL.com considers even strength and NST does not. I agree with NST so we'll call it 4 in 8 games.
That's an ES p/g rate of 0.50 against Panarin's at-large ES p/g rate of 0.63.
For the second sample I have chosen Columbus, Anahiem (again, we played them twice), the Islanders, and Montreal.
This is where the exercise is flawed because we haven't played anybody a lot. The schedule has been really balanced. And "playoff team" is a rolling definition. I digress.
In those 8 games, Panairn and Not Will Cuylle have scored 3 ES goals and conceded ELEVEN!! He has a point on all three goals because of course he does (well, 4, but empty netters don't f***ing count NHL.com!!)
He completely sucks against the four non-playoff teams I selected!
That's a p/g rate of 0.37, well below the at-large rate, and also well below the rate against the good sample.
Upon finding that, I went back to see where the 0.63 ES p/g came from and it's against a hodgepodge of teams.
Detroit and Arizona are high on the list of Panarin's 5v5 victims but so are Minnesota, Jersey, and Florida
There's nobody he's feasted on because he only has six 3-point games. He only has twelve multi-point games.
My conclusion: it's not a quality of competition issue, he's just not having big games like he used to. It's a point here and a point there.
I have chosen our games against Carolina, New Jersey, Boston, and Vegas. Carolina and NJ are the two best teams in the division. Boston because Boston. Vegas because they're good, we've played them twice, and we beat up on them - I kind of want to be fair to Panarin to get an accurate sample, so I chose a team we scored against.
In those games, our imaginary line of Panarin-Cuylle (so just Panarin) scored 4 goals at even strength and conceded 6 in 8 total games.
In those games Panarin has 5 even strength points according to NHL.com on 4 even strength goals, which is fun. The only way that happens is on an empty netter, which NHL.com considers even strength and NST does not. I agree with NST so we'll call it 4 in 8 games.
That's an ES p/g rate of 0.50 against Panarin's at-large ES p/g rate of 0.63.
For the second sample I have chosen Columbus, Anahiem (again, we played them twice), the Islanders, and Montreal.
This is where the exercise is flawed because we haven't played anybody a lot. The schedule has been really balanced. And "playoff team" is a rolling definition. I digress.
In those 8 games, Panairn and Not Will Cuylle have scored 3 ES goals and conceded ELEVEN!! He has a point on all three goals because of course he does (well, 4, but empty netters don't f***ing count NHL.com!!)
He completely sucks against the four non-playoff teams I selected!
That's a p/g rate of 0.37, well below the at-large rate, and also well below the rate against the good sample.
Upon finding that, I went back to see where the 0.63 ES p/g came from and it's against a hodgepodge of teams.
Detroit and Arizona are high on the list of Panarin's 5v5 victims but so are Minnesota, Jersey, and Florida
There's nobody he's feasted on because he only has six 3-point games. He only has twelve multi-point games.
My conclusion: it's not a quality of competition issue, he's just not having big games like he used to. It's a point here and a point there.
Nash suffered another concussion as a Bruin and he never played another NHL game.
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It would be nice if Drury could find a couple of guys who could add to the teams overall possession of the puck and their ability to retrieve it when it is not in their possession.
There is something to be said for being tough to play against by being able to maintain and recover the puck. The team has skilled forwards and players who can create chances.
I'd be looking for guys like that moreso than a physical presence.
There is something to be said for being tough to play against by being able to maintain and recover the puck. The team has skilled forwards and players who can create chances.
I'd be looking for guys like that moreso than a physical presence.
True, but he like Kane now was a shell of his former self by the time Boston added him for their playoffs. Basically a glorified role-player at that point. Kane could also be one injury away from retiring.
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I don't think it is that far off. The reason why this team needs two wingers is because we're still waiting on the back half of the rebuild/retool to kick in. Even if Lafreniere and Kakko (as you mentioned), became legit top liners, you're still working with the Vesey and Goodrow in the top 9 and you don't win championships that way.
A big reason why is because of Fox and Shesterkin becoming elite faster than I think anyone could have imagined. Also that Miller, Lindgren, and to a lesser extent Schneider have become legit top 4 types.
The good news is that guys like Cuylle, Berard, and Othmann are not far off from being in the NHL, so those ELCs will help a lot.
I'd love for Drury to try and find deals like Tampa did where they get guys for multiple years on cheap deals where a rebuilding team eats 50% of the cap over 2 seasons, but I don't see many viable options. I think Nashville falling out of it would be the best thing to happen. I'd be calling for Neiderreiter to fill that RW void on the team. Get him at 2M for this run and next? Figure out the cap in the offseason.
EdJovanovski
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IM SO EXCITED FOR THE ALL STAR GAME
PANARIN IGOR & FOXY
TOO BAD NO KRAV BUT HYPED NONETHELESS
PANARIN IGOR & FOXY
TOO BAD NO KRAV BUT HYPED NONETHELESS
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I’m aware.
I’d be surprised if tarasenko didn’t end up here and I wouldn’t rule them out on the likes of Meier , ROR or even (and unfortunately) Kane.
They’re going to take a big swing.
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