Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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Last year in all of February, Toffoli was traded to Calgary and Toronto/Zona swapped Lyubushkin and Ritchie. Everyone just take a breather and stick to THE TEMPLATE. I have it committed to memory...we don't have to rush into trades in fear that it will be forgotten.
 
Maybe too much but I said it after the Florida game that if there’s ever a time to do it, it’s now. We need a star player like Tank on that Panarin line because you know Mika will be busting his ass defensively
I like Tarasenko as an add but only if the cost is way way less than he proposed. Agree with your thought here of him with Panarin and Mika though
 
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I still don't think we'd beat Boston (or 4 best-of-7 series) so it's a lot to give up for a pure rental.
I know to an extent you have to 'go for it', but we need to turn some of those assets into other longer term assets if they don't have a place in the team
It's a tough call for sure about what to give up for a rental. The Rangers have a good team and can get better at the deadline but personally I don't think anybody is beating Boston this year just like I didn't think anyone was beating the Avs last year. IMO the only thing that prevents Boston from winning it all is injuries.
 
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I still don't think we'd beat Boston (or 4 best-of-7 series) so it's a lot to give up for a pure rental.
I know to an extent you have to 'go for it', but we need to turn some of those assets into other longer term assets if they don't have a place in the team
Pittsburgh is always a tough out

Sidney Crosby was nearly unstoppable against us last playoffs.

They match up against Boston 1st round, hope for the best
 
I still don't think we'd beat Boston (or 4 best-of-7 series) so it's a lot to give up for a pure rental.
I know to an extent you have to 'go for it', but we need to turn some of those assets into other longer term assets if they don't have a place in the team

It's too much IMO, but I've heard the above about soooo many teams who end up getting bounced by someone that has no business bouncing them.

Playoffs are wacky. Guys get hurt, goalies get hot or sometimes the yips, random players who aren't normally that good end up going on heaters, the refs and the review room in Toronto try their hardest to get the Penguins to move on, etc. Like bad teams don't win the cup, but its always a good team that has more than a little bit of good luck along the way. Its almost never the best team in the league or else we'd just hand the championship to the team that wins the presidents trophy.

They shouldn't get stupid, but they'd be silly not to try to ice a team that is at least good enough to hang with the top teams in the division.
 
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If you think the Bruins can't lose then you should bet it. They have longer odds to win the Cup than the Eagles, Chiefs, Bengals, and Niners have to win the Super Bowl and it's certainly hard to guarantee who is gonna with the SB.
 
If you think the Bruins can't lose then you should bet it. They have longer odds to win the Cup than the Eagles, Chiefs, Bengals, and Niners have to win the Super Bowl and it's certainly hard to guarantee who is gonna with the SB.
I don't think anyone, anywhere, including on the Bruins board would say the Bruins "can't lose"...
 
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Kravtsov will get traded to a team like Dallas or Minnesota that is good at mixing young talented forwards and hard working vets and do well. It's just not going to happen here. Gallant can barely figure out what to do with Laf and Kakko, Kravtsov is just a bridge too far.
Chytil has come along. This time last season Chytil was thrown into every trade on this board. The Rangers wouldn't trade Chytil straight up for JT Miller now let alone include Lundkvist and a draft pick in the deal for Miller. Kakko is coming along. Lafrenière is starting to get his confidence back. Patience is in short supply.
 
You're a big stat guy, aren't you? @Machinehead posted Kreider's fancy stats in a thread not to long ago, and they are borderline elite. The guy is a first line player on like 80% of teams in the league. You just pencil players with no NHL experience in the lineup and think they'll just replace guys like Kreider, Trouba, and Goodrow. Shit don't work like that. If you had it your way, this team would have no veterans and would be forced to put guys in situations they aren't ready for and they'd get caved every damn night. If Robertson is such a lock, why can't he beat out Harpur for the 6 D spot. Speaking of Goodrow, Tampa is going to spend their deadline assets trying to find someone just like Goodrow.

Do you think this team just signs guys with no regard for the cap? You don't think that when they sign players in the offseason to long term deals they aren't factoring in which players need new deals the following year? You so enamored with the Devils, go root for them. Cheaper seats too.

Of course they take the cap into consideration, they’ve just made poor decisions with respect to it. Like many GMs do.

And the problem here isn’t that I would have “no” veterans, it’s that I would have less. Some posters are unwilling to acknowledge that to get better you have to shed expensive contracts or even trade good players before their expiration to get better value in return.
 
Chytil has come along. This time last season Chytil was thrown into every trade on this board. The Rangers wouldn't trade Chytil straight up for JT Miller now let alone include Lundkvist and a draft pick in the deal for Miller. Kakko is coming along. Lafrenière is starting to get his confidence back. Patience is in short supply.

I agree as I’m one to throw Chytil in on suggestions but he’s on a roll

I think Kravtsov is different as he can boot to Russia again if not happy . I’d move him now

Cuylee and Othmaan are replacements soon
 




Kane has a hip issue. O'Reilly is out with a broken foot. Tarasenko returned from a broken hand.

All of the rentals are dealing with some type of injury.

There aren’t many teams with cap space to be buyers. More sellers than actual buyers. Tire kickers are not buyers.
 
I agree as I’m one to throw Chytil in on suggestions but he’s on a roll

I think Kravtsov is different as he can boot to Russia again if not happy . I’d move him now

Cuylee and Othmaan are replacements soon
How much value does Kravtsov have? If other teams are worried about Kravtsov going back to Russia, why would they trade for him?
 
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How much value does Kravtsov have? If other teams are worried about Kravtsov going back to Russia, why would they trade for him?

it’s more that he will want out of NY given the history. He wants to play in the NHL and not sit on the bench. I don’t see him getting back in consistently barring injury

Lias got a 2nd and it’s turned into Cuylee

Still think Kravtsov has that value now and a team like AZ, ANH, SJ is a fit
 
I would eat lobster for breakfast or surf and turf everyday if I were them.
I find lobster to be heavy on the gut after eating 5-6 of them red devils and some salad bar treats and homemade rolls .....it fills a fellow up too much for desert options ! FWIW....when Eric Lindros and the Flyers had the Lindros Rookie Camp here in my backyard.....he ate 11 lobsters out on the boat with my friends .
 
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I find lobster to be heavy on the gut after about eating 5-6 of them red devils and some salad bar treats and homemade rolls .....it fills a fellow up too much for desert options ! FWIW....when Eric Lindros and the Flyers had the Lindros Rookie Camp here in my backyard.....he ate 11 lobsters out on the boat with my friends .
This is a classic hockey story in the truest sense of the word. A gem. Thank you.
 
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Nah, anyone trading for VK would to be doing so with a long term approach. He's not in the lineup because Gallant doesn't know where to put him in the top 9. Technically he could go in Vesey's spot on the Mika line as that line is still sorting out their chemistry. That said, I'm not certain that's the best spot for a kid who would play at his best if it's clear where he needs to be on the ice. Mika and Bread need to find some repeatable mojo. Anyone added to them is going to be in no man's land until then. There isn't an ideal place in this lineup for VK right now. There's a not so great mix right now. We are currently sacrificing Mika because no one is working with Bread. And we finally got Laffy going by putting him with Fil and KK. It sucks for VK, but it's not his fault. And while I don't love a lot of GG's decisions, I really do understand this issue.
Missing out on a full season or so in the AHL has hurt the kid without a doubt . If he had spent some time there and bulked up some and got adjusted to a more NHL pace and then built up some confidence and familiarity with systems and coaches and other players and just overall life in NA ....he might be a more well rounded and NHL ready product at this stage . Now we have a guy coming off an ELC ...still light...and still on the outside looking in and also likely will be wanting a slight raise along with more ice .

I agree he has no role in NY at the moment and I am not in love with trading him for peanuts......if we can get a guy of equal projected value....yes . The kid is lanky , still young and skilled...and still holds promise . We have some time invested in him and if we just get a rental or a pick....it likely is wasted time unless we win a Cup with the rental which probably won't happen this season .

I would like to keep him....and go with Kakko-Kravs-Gauthier & Cuylee/Othmann down the rd...that SHOULD be a very good right side . Left side of Panarin if still here Lafreniere Kreider and one of Othmann /Cuylee . That makes us a deep club IMO and not that far away for our best chance at a Cup .....
 
you need to go to Kinkos/Staples whatever you have in Canada... and print out one of those Gallant getting arrested/in handcuffs printed on a big sign...

just in case.

or the default taxi meme is fine. Get on TV
Or....he could start a TURKEY chant throughout the arena ....LOL.....that would get his attention !!! Release a turkey on the ice...like the octopuss in Detroit . Of course Ed would have to have a service turkey on a leash to get him in the arena. I'm not sure how common service Turkeys are in Vancouver....LMAO.....
 
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It's a tough call for sure about what to give up for a rental. The Rangers have a good team and can get better at the deadline but personally I don't think anybody is beating Boston this year just like I didn't think anyone was beating the Avs last year. IMO the only thing that prevents Boston from winning it all is injuries.
Heavily disagree that the only variable for slowing down the B’s would be injuries. Have you seen the average age of that roster? There is still a lot of season left. Will the bodies of the seasoned vets hold up? Will their pace keep up? They don’t have a lot of cap space to add at the deadline. They would have to move some money out to add someone significant. Likely only able to add depth players. They don’t have their 2nd round picks in 2023 or 2024. Will they deal their 2023 1st? Most teams are hesitant. Will they deal their 2024 1st in what could be a year where they take a step back due to the cap complications they are about to face in the offseason to shape their 2023-2024 roster. So how many quality depth pieces could they add with the draft picks in rounds 3 & 4 over the next 2 drafts? They can come away with someone but is it enough to give the group a shot in the arm to push through the rest of the season? Meanwhile you have deeper, younger teams that are starting to find their stride just past the halfway point. And some of those teams will be able to add more at the deadline.

Bottom line is I don’t think it is so clear cut that Boston is going to be this powerhouse come playoff time.
 
The Rangers are 16-4-3 since Das Helmet and now have the eighth best winning percentage in hockey and probably rank in the top 1-3 over the last 23 games.

Chytil, Fox, Kakko, Kravtsov, Lafreniere, Leschyshyn, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider are all 24 and under. These players, and the 2 1st's, should be kept at all costs. Any rentals should be for something else (Otthman aside).

Trouba has been better over the last month+. Trocheck has earned his contract. Goodrow is a valuable piece that can play anywhere. Vesey might be the best value contract in the league. Gauthier found his feet. Halak figured his shit out. Kreider is on his usual pace for near 30 goals.

There's a lot. A LOT to be positive about.
 
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