Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Say Goodrow’s contract was $0.8m lower - at $2.8m folks would be saying it’s crazy to think about trading Goodrow. If push came to shove with a little retention Goodrow should be pretty easy to move for a value.

Retaining on a contract that spans an additional 4 seasons after this one should absolutely be avoided

 

[NYR Viper]

I like the idea of Labanc but we’ve been discussing him for years.

Low cost option is one RB brought up that I am liking more and more. Dadonov. He’s not a sexy name right now but he’d be a good fit for what the team needs and probably costs next to nothing.

Also Nick Holden on defense for me

 

[RangerBoy]

Can Tyler Bertuzzi play RW? He recently returned from a broken hand.

Meanwhile, Tyler Bertuzzi, a key piece of Detroit’s core throughout the rebuild, has been hurt nearly all season after being hit on the hand by pucks on two different occasions. He hasn’t looked himself in the limited time he has been in the lineup either, which is far from ideal for a forward in a contract year.

What it means for the future: For Bertuzzi, all eyes are on his contract negotiations between now and the March 3 NHL trade deadline. If he and the Red Wings can’t agree to an extension, Detroit could very well look to trade him, and avoid losing him for nothing. The missed time will be an interesting factor in that: Does it make it more likely Bertuzzi would accept a contract that’s amenable to Detroit? Or tougher for the Red Wings to feel confident offering a long-term deal to Bertuzzi? And that’s before getting into what rival teams think his value is in a trade market that may be flooded with wingers.

What we know about the Red Wings at midseason and what it means for the future

The Red Wings' first half has been a step forward for the club, with some interesting long-term developments as well.

theathletic.com

Bertuzzi is the type of a player the Rangers need on the wing.

There are many wingers in the market. Not that many buyers with money. Buyers market.

 

[Lion Hound]

Winnipeg is first in the Central division. The Rangers need Winnipeg to win the division. The Jets are a team which has cap flexibility to add players at the trading deadline. Winnipeg aren’t usually big rental players. They made deals for Stastny and Hayes in 2018 and 2019. The shelf life of that group is winding down. PLD is not a long term Jet. He is having a very good season after a few down seasons. Scheifele, Wheeler and Hellebuyck are all free agents after 23-24. Bowness brought a new voice to the room. He is on a short term contract. Winnipeg gave up first round picks for rentals and they didn’t do much. The Jets could use another top 6 forward. Winnipeg was a seller last season. Copp to the Rangers. Maybe Winnipeg trades Lambert in a deal.

Dallas misses Roope Hintz. He is out with an upper body injury.

I think WPG is one of the team most likely to buy at the deadline. Looks like the club has a 2 year window.

I asked the WPG board what they thought the team would do at the deadline a month ago. Most of them said the GM is very tight lipped, and can be unpredictable at times. (The Stasny trade.) Then much of the core expires. Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Wheeler, DeMelo, Dillon, Most were saying top 6 winger specifically RW is the biggest need. RD was also needed. The club has $7,471,564 in Deadline space.

PLD is an impending RFA. The other RFA's expiring are small potatoes. So they might look to add a player with term?

Toews was mentioned by the posters over there. He's from WPG, and being an expiring asset they could see him as one target. Big cap hit but they do have the deadline space.

Board mentioned Heinola, and Stanley as players that could be on the move. They have a 1st,, 3rd, 2 5th round, 7th rounder in 2023 draft.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Can Tyler Bertuzzi play RW? He recently returned from a broken hand.

What we know about the Red Wings at midseason and what it means for the future

The Red Wings' first half has been a step forward for the club, with some interesting long-term developments as well.

theathletic.com

Bertuzzi is the type of a player the Rangers need on the wing.

There are many wingers in the market. Not that many buyers with money. Buyers market.

He would be a pure rental. Price would have to be pretty cheap and knowing Stevie Y, it wouldn't go well for the Rangers in negotiations.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Was just thinking; Nobody on this team has had a hatty this year right?

 

[NYR Viper]

bertuzzi would be great but the cost will be high and he’s a rental. It’s really u fortunate the team couldn’t make a player like Labanc or Gatland work

 

[IDvsEGO]

Say Goodrow’s contract was $0.8m lower - at $2.8m folks would be saying it’s crazy to think about trading Goodrow. If push came to shove with a little retention Goodrow should be pretty easy to move for a value.

The problem about moving goodrow isn’t about his aav, it’s his movement clause’s.
teams with space that want him aren’t the teams he’s gonna accept a move to.
Arizona would be a great fit for him next year as they try to actually develop a team, or Anaheim.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Was just thinking; Nobody on this team has had a hatty this year right?

Jeff Toms did. Oh wait wrong season.

 

[Shadowtron]

Now that’s an option…with Laffy’s creativity and puck smarts, the PP would be even more lethal than than it is now

Guess He just needed 5 extra mins of ice time to unlock his super powers.

 

[Avery16]

The problem about moving goodrow isn’t about his aav, it’s his movement clause’s.
teams with space that want him aren’t the teams he’s gonna accept a move to.
Arizona would be a great fit for him next year as they try to actually develop a team, or Anaheim.

Not a NMC but a 15-team NTC. It makes it harder for sure, but it’s the AAV and term that makes Goodrow a no for most teams.

 

[huerter]

Based on?

Can already see him getting his bones crunched, he's prone on the ice and then the opponent has an odd man advantage, Trouba overcommits, and then we get royal roaded and all of MSG is just despondent as the organ plays.

We are getting reinforcements. I'll bet anyone.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

The problem about moving goodrow isn’t about his aav, it’s his movement clause’s.
teams with space that want him aren’t the teams he’s gonna accept a move to.
Arizona would be a great fit for him next year as they try to actually develop a team, or Anaheim.

I think for Goodrow you're looking at the middle class kind of teams - Sabres, Wings, whoever is in that kind of spot out west. Was going to say LA but that team always has about as many points as we do and I have no idea how. Maybe they talk to us after missing out on a free agent

 

[duhmetreE]

Can Tyler Bertuzzi play RW? He recently returned from a broken hand.

What we know about the Red Wings at midseason and what it means for the future

The Red Wings' first half has been a step forward for the club, with some interesting long-term developments as well.

theathletic.com

Bertuzzi is the type of a player the Rangers need on the wing.

There are many wingers in the market. Not that many buyers with money. Buyers market.

He's been playing RW last season from what I remember. Had some bad gaffes against us.

but he's a nice energy piece with skill. Would be a nice fit with Chytil or Trocheck.

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravtsov
Laffy Trocheck Bertuzzi

solid offensive top9. I don't know if Gallant would like that defensively

That's why Labanc would make more sense.

 

[McRanger92]

He's been playing RW last season from what I remember. Had some bad gaffes against us.

but he's a nice energy piece with skill. Would be a nice fit with Chytil or Trocheck.

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravtsov
Laffy Trocheck Bertuzzi

solid offensive top9. I don't know if Gallant would like that defensively

That's why Labanc would make more sense.

Don’t know much about Labanc’s game, but I like a local story. Seems like a guy who is destined to be a Ranger at some point, especially with the Grier-Drury connection. How are we fitting that contract is my question?

 

[IDvsEGO]

Don’t know much about Labanc’s game, but I like a local story. Seems like a guy who is destined to be a Ranger at some point, especially with the Grier-Drury connection. How are we fitting that contract is my question?

Lebanc got screwed a few years ago by the sharks.
He took a 1m RFA deal after having a really good year (because they were cap strapped), and everyone assumed he'd get a big deal once they had some room. He followed it up with a really poor year and got locked into a terrible deal for him. I doubt he's taking any discounts to come home.

 

[RGY]

Disappointed it wasn’t Cuylle.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Not a NMC but a 15-team NTC. It makes it harder for sure, but it’s the AAV and term that makes Goodrow a no for most teams.

The teams that goodrow will ok, likely don’t have the cap space for him.
The teams that he won’t ok, have the cap space.
It’s him eliminating teams In combination with the cap hit that’s the issue .

 

[duhmetreE]

Don’t know much about Labanc’s game, but I like a local story. Seems like a guy who is destined to be a Ranger at some point, especially with the Grier-Drury connection. How are we fitting that contract is my question?

In the most broadest of terms, he's a Lehkonen type. Play driver, strong defensively and can put the puck in the net. Great depth.

they'd have to eat.

could possibly get a 3rd team involved to eat some more

Jones for Labanc @ 50%

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Disappointed it wasn’t Cuylle.

Great, now we will never get rid of him again

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I dont understand all this trade talk of Cuylle? He just made the AHL all star team if i recall correctly. Him and Othmann, sykoria BMB have to stop coming out of peoples mouths for rentals., They arent being moved. Those ARE the new rangers that drury envisions.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

The problem about moving goodrow isn’t about his aav, it’s his movement clause’s.
teams with space that want him aren’t the teams he’s gonna accept a move to.
Arizona would be a great fit for him next year as they try to actually develop a team, or Anaheim.

I can also see the redwings, the sabres being interested in him as well. Im sure more will be if he was on the market

 

[Avery16]

The teams that goodrow will ok, likely don’t have the cap space for him.
The teams that he won’t ok, have the cap space.
It’s him eliminating teams In combination with the cap hit that’s the issue .

Teams with the cap space to add a player like Goodrow aren’t contending. A team that isn’t contending has no interest in a player like Goodrow, unless we’re paying a premium to move the contract.

Goodrow’s NTC is designed to thwart moving him with a 2nd or a 1st to a team like Chicago (thank god). But his AAV and term prevent him from any contender adding him without us retaining 50%, which we’d never do (thank god).

It’s a contract that truly no one other than Goodrow can benefit from. Well done, Drury and team.

 

[Fitzy]

Goodrow would be an extremely welcome presence on the current Ottawa Senators roster

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Carpy has been PPG in Hartford, deserved the call-up. Cuylle will definitely get a stint towards the end of the season.