Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[huerter]

Kravtsov isn't going anywhere - our depth at RW is awful.

It's up in the air but there is zero question that he's on the outside looking in when the playoffs start.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

Idk why I have never seen this photo before but it has potential. Bro was all about the business from the day 1 haha.

 

[RagFinMet]

It's also not really fair to compare Robertson to Schneider.

I think it's lost in the weeds sometimes how impressive what Schneider has done is. We're all so focused on the forwards and Fox and Miller that sometimes the fact that we have a kid who at 20 years old came up into the NHL and stuck and played well for his age and experience through a second half of an NHL season and a long playoff run and in his second season has done nothing but improve and look better and better get lost in the shuffle.

Schneider was a top flight prospect - he was 9th ranked overall for all North American skaters in the 2020 draft. In any other draft year, he would be all we focused on, especially how we jumped the Devils to get him. And at 21 he's a rock solid fixture on the blue line and could and should be a top 4 mainstay for the next long while.


He really should, he has to be one of the best D in the league when skating the puck out of his zone and carrying it all the way through into the offensive zone.

The game plan when him and Trouba are out should be KAM looks to carry out when it's there and when it's not defer to Trouba, who is pretty underrated and effective at outlet passes especially into the NZ, to make the outlet.

This is one of those posts where u agree with everything until the last sentence
Trouba's outlet attempts are just as bad as Miller's
At least Miller will get better but i agree he should skate it out whenever possible
I love when the puck is on his stick.
Which is why i dont like him with Fox. They are both best with the puck.
Hopefully his outlet passes improve soon and Schneider's as well. If so they'll be a great tandom

 

[RangerBoy]

Winnipeg is first in the Central division. The Rangers need Winnipeg to win the division. The Jets are a team which has cap flexibility to add players at the trading deadline. Winnipeg aren’t usually big rental players. They made deals for Stastny and Hayes in 2018 and 2019. The shelf life of that group is winding down. PLD is not a long term Jet. He is having a very good season after a few down seasons. Scheifele, Wheeler and Hellebuyck are all free agents after 23-24. Bowness brought a new voice to the room. He is on a short term contract. Winnipeg gave up first round picks for rentals and they didn’t do much. The Jets could use another top 6 forward. Winnipeg was a seller last season. Copp to the Rangers. Maybe Winnipeg trades Lambert in a deal.

Dallas misses Roope Hintz. He is out with an upper body injury.

 

[RangerBoy]

My guess is that one of Robertson or Jones become the centerpiece for a middle 6 wing rental this year.

Someone more valuable than Vatrano but less than Copp coming back.


Try to keep our future picks if possible- they'll be feeding the best when Fox and Miller are still just in their late 20s.

Jones or Robertson and 2nd round pick in 23 is probably the Rangers best package for a rental. Jones scored last night. He is a very good player.

What does the deal get them?

 

[Vitto79]

Jones or Robertson and 2nd round pick in 23 is probably the Rangers best package for a rental. Jones scored last night. He is a very good player.

What does the deal get them?

I’m thinking Gavrikov for Jones and picks

Jones isn’t big and I think the team prefers a big body W Schneider

Also Gauthier on IR. How bad is the injury ?

 

[egelband]

Horvat for Zac Jones + 2nd would be quite a deal, if it really is a buyers market and Vancouver is scared of botching their deals, reminiscent of last TDL

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Trocheck Kravstov
Laf Chytil Horvat

Horvat can take faceoffs

I am guessing it’s more of a seller’s market this year. There will be a lot of teams still with a playoff shot because of the parity. Though cap space might be a mitigating factor. At least when it comes to players who aren’t on expiring deals.

I don’t see the Rangers moving Blais. They moved out Reaves for cap space. They don’t have to move Blais. They may push him down to spare forward.

They targeted Blais as a “playoff type” player and didn’t get the benefit of that last year. He’s still recovering from that injury. They will want to insert him into a tough playoff series and see if he can make some noise. Just my two cents.

I agree. This is the only reason I can imagine for him still being with the parent club.

 

[egelband]

My guess is that one of Robertson or Jones become the centerpiece for a middle 6 wing rental this year.

Someone more valuable than Vatrano but less than Copp coming back.


Try to keep our future picks if possible- they'll be feeding the best when Fox and Miller are still just in their late 20s.

Hope not. They would be selling low at this point. Unless another team is willing to pay for potential.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

It's up in the air but there is zero question that he's on the outside looking in when the playoffs start.

Based on?

 

[Chytilmania]

Just because Jones may not have an immediate or long-term future here doesn't mean we should give him away.

 

[Vitto79]

Just because Jones may not have an immediate or long-term future here doesn't mean we should give him away.

It’s not a giveaway if he’s not in the teams plans. Should sell while he has value

You either bring him back up now for another shot or make him available

Barron us ab example . I would of kept him but he had value and they moved him before risking waivers

I am guessing it’s more of a seller’s market this year. There will be a lot of teams still with a playoff shot because of the parity. Though cap space might be a mitigating factor. At least when it comes to players who aren’t on expiring deals.


I agree. This is the only reason I can imagine for him still being with the parent club.

Agreed Blais likely stays unless they add something similar and flip him elsewhere

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Now we want to trade Kravtsov? Watch the games. He plays well. He's not racking up points, but surprise surprise he gets no PP time either. He isn't hurting the team at all. Can we allow the young forwards to develop properly and be given actual opportunities before completely destroying any long term viability. Or sure, put the team in cap hell with aging forwards and nothing of substance.

 

[Vitto79]

Now we want to trade Kravtsov? Watch the games. He plays well. He's not racking up points, but surprise surprise he gets no PP time either. He isn't hurting the team at all. Can we allow the young forwards to develop properly and be given actual opportunities before completely destroying any long term viability. Or sure, put the team in cap hell with aging forwards and nothing of substance.

He’s playing a lot better

I still question if he wants to be here long term though . Needs to be resigned for cheap

Othmaan and Cuylee are close to contributing too

Caps gonna be tight

 

[NYR Viper]

If they are trading Jones or Cuylle the player they get needs to be here beyond this season. Plain and simple

 

[IDvsEGO]

Now we want to trade Kravtsov? Watch the games. He plays well. He's not racking up points, but surprise surprise he gets no PP time either. He isn't hurting the team at all. Can we allow the young forwards to develop properly and be given actual opportunities before completely destroying any long term viability. Or sure, put the team in cap hell with aging forwards and nothing of substance.

People love to talk about how the moves made in 93-94 ruined the teams chance at a dynasty, and yet seem to be arguing for the exact same style of moves now.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

We can’t trade Kravtsov because we can’t ice a lineup next year without a few sub-$1m players who truly deserve to be in the NHL. He needs to be one of them.

This is assuming we’re not getting rid of one of our really bad contracts (ie Trouba or Goodrow), which I’ll never believe will happen until it does happen.

 

[IDvsEGO]

We can’t trade Kravtsov because we can’t ice a lineup next year without a few sub-$1m players who truly deserve to be in the NHL. He needs to be one of them.

This is assuming we’re not getting rid of one of our really bad contracts (ie Trouba or Goodrow), which I’ll never believe will happen until it does happen.

Goodrow's contract wouldn't be a terrible one to buy out. It doesn't have any negative cap numbers until after the cap starts to rise and then we have more room to play with.

 

[GAGLine]

Goodrow's contract wouldn't be a terrible one to buy out. It doesn't have any negative cap numbers until after the cap starts to rise and then we have more room to play with.

Yeah, if we need to move Goodrow and can't find a taker (or the cost to move him is prohibitive), we can buy him out. Hopefully the cap will go up by more than 1 mil and we'll have enough space to do everything we need without moving guys.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Yeah, if we need to move Goodrow and can't find a taker (or the cost to move him is prohibitive), we can buy him out. Hopefully the cap will go up by more than 1 mil and we'll have enough space to do everything we need without moving guys.

Agreed. that 4 million dollar jump to the cap solves all our problems. lock up key and fil, bridge laf, and kratsov.

 

[B17 Apricots]

For forwards the 2 main players I'd be looking at is Barabonov (SJ) and Kubalik (DET). They're both top 6 level talents, making 2.5 mil and each have another year left on their deal. I dont see them costing an arm and a leg either. And if you're going to Detroit for Kubalik, Olli Maata may quietly be one of the better D rentals available.

 

[Vitto79]

Goodrow's contract wouldn't be a terrible one to buy out. It doesn't have any negative cap numbers until after the cap starts to rise and then we have more room to play with.

He has value imo . Plus the team likes him and will figure out how to bridge players under the cap

The whole league has the issues

 

[Mandar]

Now we want to trade Kravtsov? Watch the games. He plays well. He's not racking up points, but surprise surprise he gets no PP time either. He isn't hurting the team at all. Can we allow the young forwards to develop properly and be given actual opportunities before completely destroying any long term viability. Or sure, put the team in cap hell with aging forwards and nothing of substance.

Do you think that Laffy should stay on PP1 when Kreider is back in the lineup?

 

[SA16]

Do you think that Laffy should stay on PP1 when Kreider is back in the lineup?

There’s a pretty easy way to have him on PP1 when Kreider is back. Just pull the goalie on powerplay opportunities and run a 6 on 4.

 

[Mandar]

There’s a pretty easy way to have him on PP1 when Kreider is back. Just pull the goalie on powerplay opportunities and run a 6 on 4.

Now that’s an option…with Laffy’s creativity and puck smarts, the PP would be even more lethal than than it is now

 

[kovazub94]

Say Goodrow’s contract was $0.8m lower - at $2.8m folks would be saying it’s crazy to think about trading Goodrow. If push came to shove with a little retention Goodrow should be pretty easy to move for a value.