Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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If Vancouver offered their 2023 1st (top 3 protected) + Horvat (would be pure rental for us) for Lafreniere; would you consider it? Close? Modifications?
Hmm. Good question. I'd definitely consider it. This draft from what I'm hearing is the ballz.
 
That big guy Bjugstad in Arizona for added depth.
PITA = Motte or Erne
A big defenseman. Maybe that former Montreal 1st round pick in Anaheim.
Then wait absolutely to the last second and see if something reasonable materializes, ya never know. If not, stay the course and draft wisely

I like this a lot. Getting a solid defenseman for a low cost would be a coup for Drury but its going to be tough
 
Ryan Merkley to NYR for depth for Hartford
could be a low risk move
if I hadn't sprouted doubts about Steve Smith, Pack AC for D, I'd be tempted
but he'd also be another RHD blocker of Skinner
(currently at Jax, behind Welinski/Emberson/Giutarri w Pack; Pack did jettison Luke Martin this week)

I'd offer Hajek and rotate Harpur/Jones/Roberston at NYR 6/7D for Jan/Feb
 
The amount of u24 talent on the roster mitigates it no? A very young roster with some interesting pieces on the door step (Othmann/Robertson/Garand) and 2 firsts in the 23 draft it appears the team would like to hold on to. Im pretty pleased with where we are organizationally. They should be able to firm up the edges of the roster at the trade deadline with secondary picks and prospects.
I just hope they don't do anything stupid. Trading for Patrick Kane for Kravtsov, prospects and picks would be stupid.

The team has played better recently, but well enough to think they are a legit Cup contender? I still have questions on that. They have around 7-8M in deadline cap space, but the cap is tight again next year (along with everyone else, barring an agreement between the NHL/NHLPA). I don't want to give up the better prospects for rentals.

They can add a back pairing dman for depth. They'll go after a top 6 forward; I just hope the price isn't ridiculous.
 
Kulikov seems like a real solid fit, big lefty D, veteran, can throw the body, and could probably be had for a 3rd or 4th

Motte 13th forward for a 5th maybe

I'll still beat the drum of going for a guy like Barabanov at 50%; someone who is signed next year as well that can play middle 6 where their salary can get down to 1.x with retention; Zac Jones seems like someone who has good value that has played himself into odd man out here, could easily send Blais in that deal as well or send Blais to a Western team for a 4th or 5th to recoup

Laf Zib Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravstov
Kreider Trocheck Barabanov
Motte Goodrow Vesey
Gauthier

Kreider and Trocheck would still get 18-20 mins a night and would be a good line to roll out to play the matchup game int he playoffs. Top 2 lines take o-zone faceoffs, bottom 2 take d-zone. Plenty of PK guys throughout and guys that can shift around if needed for road games getting away from matchups.

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Kulikov Schneider
 
If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.
 
I just hope they don't do anything stupid. Trading for Patrick Kane for Kravtsov, prospects and picks would be stupid.

The team has played better recently, but well enough to think they are a legit Cup contender? I still have questions on that. They have around 7-8M in deadline cap space, but the cap is tight again next year (along with everyone else, barring an agreement between the NHL/NHLPA). I don't want to give up the better prospects for rentals.

They can add a back pairing dman for depth. They'll go after a top 6 forward; I just hope the price isn't ridiculous.

If they make the playoffs they are a Cup contender in my view. There's no Colorado out there this year that is the clear favorite. We've also seen this group go deep and we've got the top talent to match anyone. Gallant and/or another underwhelming playoff from Panarin (& Trouba) are my main concerns.
 
If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.

Id 100% be on board trading Laf + for a solid RW player with an extension. If we could somehow get a Meier type of player I’d be pushing hard for it. Laf would fit nicely on the Sharks too

Idk a ton about this draft but I hear it’s deep. So I’d also be tempted to even move him for one of the Habs 1st & prospect. I’m sure they are one of the teams interested
 
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If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.
So the prospect whose skating is an issue will put up better numbers then laf while also getting no PP time…..but wait where is Othman’s best chance of scoring going to come from……wait for it……PP time
 
If they make the playoffs they are a Cup contender in my view. There's no Colorado out there this year that is the clear favorite. We've also seen this group go deep and we've got the top talent to match anyone. Gallant and/or another underwhelming playoff from Panarin (& Trouba) are my main concerns.
Boston says hello. Also I don't see us beating any of the top three in the Atlantic. They are much more consistent and structured teams.
 
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last few seasons folks have regularly dumped on every beat writers (aside from shiny new toy Vince, who has been very good)

well, to me, Staple is merely replacement-level, kinda EJHradek-ish,
never told me anything i hadn't already read, heard or thought
... and his attachment to last summer's quick-passing Beaulieu possibility (his 'scoop') is getting annoying ..

had really hoped Athletic would replace him/Carp with someone more interesting and/or ambitious
some of you folks would hate Sara Civian, but she works hard, writes well
 
If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.
So othmann at 21 will be better than Laf at 18?
Also just to make this clear I like Othmann, but in no way do I "move laf to make room for othmann".

Othmann's first year will be a yo-yo up and down to hartford with us yelling to leave him in HFD because he's only getting 10minutes a night without PP time in the NHL.

last few seasons folks have regularly dumped on every beat writers (aside from shiny new toy Vince, who has been very good)

well, to me, Staple is merely replacement-level, kinda EJHradek-ish,
never told me anything i hadn't already read, heard or thought
... and his attachment to last summer's quick-passing Beaulieu possibility (his 'scoop') is getting annoying ..

had really hoped Athletic would replace him/Carp with someone more interesting and/or ambitious
some of you folks would hate Sara Civian, but she works hard, writes well
I liked Civian and I saw some of the stuff she did for the canes beat. She's got a good mind for hockey.
I'd prefer to have shayna be more of a traditional beat writer for the Rangers than anything else though.
 
Boston says hello. Also I don't see us beating any of the top three in the Atlantic. They are much more consistent and structured teams.

Boston would be tough but they are hardly an unstoppable force. I would absolutely love to get another crack at Tampa Bay. Spare me with Toronto.
 
If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.

I want a #1 center then. Or the pick to get one.

But in reality either Kreider or Panarin is gone soon, maybe both (2 years ish) so I see no reason to move Laf or Othmann really. Left wing spots are opening soon.
 
So othmann at 21 will be better than Laf at 18?
Also just to make this clear I like Othmann, but in no way do I "move laf to make room for othmann".

Othmann's first year will be a yo-yo up and down to hartford with us yelling to leave him in HFD because he's only getting 10minutes a night without PP time in the NHL.


Othmann will be 20 for the first 40 games of next season.

And I think he makes the team next season and sticks.
 
If they make the playoffs they are a Cup contender in my view. There's no Colorado out there this year that is the clear favorite. We've also seen this group go deep and we've got the top talent to match anyone. Gallant and/or another underwhelming playoff from Panarin (& Trouba) are my main concerns.
Like one of the other posters has said, the Bruins look tough to beat. Their goaltending might be unproven, but once they get everyone back healthy, they'll be a tough out.

Are the Rangers a top Cup contender really depends on who they add before the deadline. Shesterkin needs to play at the level he did in last year's playoffs (hopefully he won't wear down; they need Halak to steal some points for them); preferably, would like to see them win a series in less than 7 games LOL. Add a depth defenceman and a top 9 forward without breaking the bank; it pushes others down a peg in the lineup.

The head coach has driven us nuts at times, misusing a number of players, not playing the kids enough and inserting 4th liners into the top 3-6 forward group. Has been better in this regard recently. The constant line juggling.

Panarin needs to realize you can't play in the playoffs the same way you do in the regular season vs bottom feeder teams. Against the better defensive teams, he gets bottled up. They need the Trouba of the 1st rd vs the Penguins last year; whether he's been hurt or not, he needs to be better. That fit he had during and after the Blackhawks at MSG game seems to have been a turning point in their season. Good for him; they needed a kick in the ass.
 
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Boston would be tough but they are hardly an unstoppable force. I would absolutely love to get another crack at Tampa Bay. Spare me with Toronto.
Boston scares me more than any other team because they seem to be getting insane goaltending while also getting great scoring + depth. Thats a winning combo if it holds up.

Toronto and Tampa would be much better matchups for us. They're both so weak on D (tampa has no depth and toronto has no stars) that I like our chances.

Not sure NJD makes the playoffs (but if they do their goaltending is not gonna do them any favors)
Pitt is really the only team I could see us struggling against, with both a healthy malkin and crosby.
Theyve somehow managed to scrap together some decent depth scoring and D right now.
 
If you think Othmann can legitimately be a Laf replacement ( I do) and know that Kreids and Bread are going nowhere for the next few seasons, you have to at least consider making a move that improves your pretty good team now.

I personally believe that Othmanns first full season as a Ranger will be better than Lafs first season as a Ranger. And continue from there. Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, not sure.

NHL Radio this AM was saying that "A LOT" of teams are calling the Rangers about his availability. Some analysts are speculating that IF Laf breaks out in a few years, it won't be as a NYR. Then they debated why.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Lafreniere was a better CHL player in his D-3 than Othmann is now.

Lafreniere should be an indication that nothing is guaranteed based on what you did in junior.
 
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