yes he would good post.
Ladies, gentlemen, and hysterics,
I haven't posted in a while so have a lot of things i want to cover and cram it into this 1 post so here it goes
if you guys think we are not in on shatty or he wouldn't help that much your insane and I can't help you. This guy brings 95% exactly what this team needs. I believe, that NYR's offer is 6.25-6.5 per for 6 years. If his agent says that 7th year is a deal breaker I think we cave and give it to him. probably majority of it is frontloaded and more then likely he will have a LTC ( which i hate)
now shatty as he sits now would at least be a 5.5 mil per year defender. He is a RD, a 60pt D, Runs the point on the PP world class, Is a better skater and defender than many here give him credit for, although that is not his forte. He has an absolute low accurate howitzer from the blueline which always seems to get thru to the net, even if it doesn't go in the goalie leaves a juicy rebound. He is an ideal partner for McD. without a superstar forward, there is no one better avaliable to bring what he can to the PP. Not happy we signed smith when by all accounts Berezglaov is a younger russian version of him for cheap. He plays both sides, physical but not overly physical, moves the puck well, but will not add that much offense. Pretty much a carbon copy of smith.
for those who think deangelo can do what shatty does, your insane. he cannot, at least not right now and it is foolish to think so. Many of the hysterics hate deangelo for his past slip ups. look, the kid has immense talent, and he was a dumb kid. we all were at some point in time. he is also a jersey kid. do any of you think that having him near home near his friends and family might keep him more grounded?? I happen to think so. He should also learn a ton from shatty and McD so that would be huge, but i highly doubt he is anything more than 3rd pair 2nd PP this year. Give it a chance hysterics, he might actually wind up being one of you favorite players down the road. Gorton has said, "our D is a work in progress" I am still holding out hope he can move Staal out with a pick and prospect to a team that needs to get to the cap floor. that remains to be seen. Dallas is dying for help on D. their FWDs di not play any D, a main reason they were garbage last year. Gorts should explore Holden+Nash to the stars, I think he will get a good return. Buff is another team dying for D. Maybe Holden plus a small add for Girgensons. That would cure our 3rd line center woes. He is young, Physical, fast and has the constant motor of Zucc. He would be great as a 40-45pt 3rd line center here and they already have larrsson and have shifted Girgs to wing. Grigorenko is another interesting piece. Hanzal?? maybe depending on term and $$. I believe all 3 above are better options then thorton marleau and bonino because of what each will command.
ALso, those of you who think we are watching a full on rebuild are nuts. Hockey is a business. even if we win 1 playoff series do you have any idea How much revenue that creates?? we are not carrying all of that cap space for no reason, wise up.
now back to shatty, obviously he has an agenda. He refused to the sign and trade with tampa at 7yrs 6.5 per ( Btw stevie Y is a pretty damn good GM. If he was ready to offer that to shatty you think he knows something
) shatty turned it down. due to FLA's no state tax that would equate to us paying him 7.5 per. He knows NYR will not offer that. Logic would dictate, that the kid (already a multi millionare mind you) wants to come home to play if the money is close. 99.9999% he is a ranger .0000001 a NJD and thats only if they offer him like 8 mill per and he goes for the coin.
Now as far as everyone saying this will be a disaster in 4 years, you don't know that. I'll go you one further and say he ages better then McD.. He has no blazing speed to lose, No extensive injury history as McD,he relies on smarts, positioning and being a very gifted offensive athlete. say in 4-5 years he slows down, to what a dennis wideman, even then he would be a 3rd pair 40-50 D PP QB.... but thats way way down the line. Look at steps many on these boards were adament he would not be dealt and the rest of us were nuts... I remember them even saying i can't wait til the vegas draft is over so we can not talk about a steps trade and blah blah blah. truth is, in todays NHL it is very very hard to see more then 2-3 years down the line, there are always trades,buyout, injuries, retirements, etc way way too many variables to get lectured by some whats goin to occur 4-5 years down the road as of now this is the way I see our D in a few days
McD--Shattenkirk
Skjei--Smith
Staal/Bereglazov-DeAngelo/Bereglazov
when staal traded Bereglazov( yes i know he is a RD but can play both)---DeAngelo
Midseason our D could look like
McD--Shattenkirk
Skjei--Bereglazov/Smith
Bereglazov/ Smith--DeAngelo
do you see the template?? All are mobile and can move the puck and each pair has a guy that can be really offensive and then theres McD who is all around awesome
# 1PP Shatty
#2 PP skjei/DeAngelo rotate
I still think gorts trades staal somehow. I dunno call it a gut intuition, But i just have a feeling he has something up his sleeve
I bet we deal holden+ for our new 3rd line C
and we deal nash, maybe before the season, maybe around the deadline, but he brings back a decent return....
thats all for now folks flame away
