Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXXV: July 1st Is Coming...

[NYR Viper]

interest in Thornton (per Dreger), Marleau (per Constance) and Kovalchuk (per Brooks)

"rebuild on the fly" tho.

I'm totally fine with the Rangers signing these guys to short term deals. If they don't work out, trade them at the deadline.

I think sometimes people forget that a lot of these guys can teach young players different tricks or things they have learned over their careers.

I am not okay signing any of them past 2 years (1 for Marleau and Thornton, 2 for Kovalchuk)

 

[Irishguy42]

If the roster stays as it is, we have two spots on the blue line, assuming we go with 7D.

If we re-sign Smith, that drops to one spot.

McDonagh, Skjei, Staal, DeAngelo, and Holden are all pretty much making the roster, barring anything wild.

Two (or one) spot open for Bereglazov, Graves and Pionk.

 

[E-Train]

He is but the Rangers actually need someone who SHOOTS right handed, sure Deangelo is one, and Zibanejad, who else is there? we have everyone who shoots left handed, there's one reason why the PP is complete crap at times as well, you can only put so many guys who shoot lefty on the power play.

I'm not ruling out Shattenkirk and another righty can be acquired before opening night.

 

[NYR Viper]

if you're actually "rebuilding on the fly" you don't kick the tires on guys almost 40.

Unless you want to trade them as assets at the deadline if you are out of contention

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I think even if we sign Smith, they need another good defenseman (doesn't have to be Shattenkirk, can be a trade), but just getting rid of Girardi isn't turning this defense into a world beater.. and we all know without a BIG time defenseman coming in who can play the right side, Staal and Holden are going to see more minutes than either Skjei, Deangelo or Smith (if re signed)

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

interest in Thornton (per Dreger), Marleau (per Constance) and Kovalchuk (per Brooks)

"rebuild on the fly" tho.

The old guys don't represent a long-term contract risk. They're probably out of here in two years. If we sign Nick Bonino and it doesn't work out he's here forever.

Giving Dan Girardi 20 minutes a night because of Veteran Intangibles is dumb, but so is putting young players in matchups they can't win, I'd be very surprised with a Zib-Hayes 1-2 center group.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I'm not ruling out Shattenkirk and another righty can be acquired before opening night.

Yep, at a massive price in assets.

 

[RGY]

Sportsnet saying Leafs have offered JVR to Islanders

 

[E-Train]

Unless you want to trade them as assets at the deadline if you are out of contention

Right they have to be 1 or 2 year deals without NMCs. Would be smart to have assets to deal if the wheels fall off. Short term commitments won't hurt anywhere near the level of a wonder twin type deal.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

if you're actually "rebuilding on the fly" you don't kick the tires on guys almost 40.

If you can get them on short term deals, thats exactly what you do when you don't have young replacements ready (which we don't.)

Either that, or try to find this years Sam Gagner.

I've never bought into the Kovalchuk stuff, but I'd be fine with either Thornton or Marleau for 1 year. Thornton for Hayes protection, signing Marelau for a year frees them up to trade another winger (Zucc.) Plus if it goes to hell, you have another asset you can move at the deadline.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

If you can get them on short term deals, thats exactly what you do when you don't have young replacements ready (which we don't.)

Either that, or try to find this years Sam Gagner.

I've never bought into the Kovalchuk stuff, but I'd be fine with either Thornton or Marleau for 1 year. Thornton for Hayes protection, signing Marelau for a year frees them up to trade another winger (Zucc.) Plus if it goes to hell, you have another asset you can move at the deadline.

Pointless. Hayes is due for a contract after this season, take the reigns off and let him loose if we're "rebuilding on the fly" and see what he can do with more minutes and more ice time before we make a decision on his next contract.

Same with Zibanejad.

 

[NYR Viper]

I think even if we sign Smith, they need another good defenseman (doesn't have to be Shattenkirk, can be a trade), but just getting rid of Girardi isn't turning this defense into a world beater.. and we all know without a BIG time defenseman coming in who can play the right side, Staal and Holden are going to see more minutes than either Skjei, Deangelo or Smith (if re signed)

I agree with this but everytime I look at this here is where I run into issues:

Locks:
McDonagh
Skjei
Staal - unless traded

Hopefuls:
Smith - Re-signed
Bereglazov
DeAngelo

That would mean the pairings would be:

McDonagh-Bereglazov
Skjei-Smith
Staal-DeAngelo

Or some combination above.

Without shedding Staal, I don't see where another guy plays? Bereglazov is going to play in the NHL next year. DeAngelo already has time under his belt in Arizona. He's most likely going to play.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I agree with this but everytime I look at this here is where I run into issues:

Locks:
McDonagh
Skjei
Staal - unless traded

Hopefuls:
Smith - Re-signed
Bereglazov
DeAngelo

That would mean the pairings would be:

McDonagh-Bereglazov
Skjei-Smith
Staal-DeAngelo

Or some combination above.

Without shedding Staal, I don't see where another guy plays? Bereglazov is going to play in the NHL next year. DeAngelo already has time under his belt in Arizona. He's most likely going to play.

I don't think Berezgalor or Deangelo are locks to next year to be honest... Holden is still here and they want to re sign Smith apparently.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Pointless. Hayes is due for a contract after this season, take the reigns off and let him loose if we're "rebuilding on the fly" and see what he can do with more minutes and more ice time before we make a decision on his next contract.

Same with Zibanejad.

Even if you take the reigns off of Hayes, you still need someone to center the 3rd line.

They don't have anyone ready for that yet.

 

[silverfish]

I agree with this but everytime I look at this here is where I run into issues:

Locks:
McDonagh
Skjei
Staal - unless traded

Hopefuls:
Smith - Re-signed
Bereglazov
DeAngelo

That would mean the pairings would be:

McDonagh-Bereglazov
Skjei-Smith
Staal-DeAngelo

Or some combination above.

Without shedding Staal, I don't see where another guy plays? Bereglazov is going to play in the NHL next year. DeAngelo already has time under his belt in Arizona. He's most likely going to play.

Holden?

 

[glees68]

There's a rumor going around that Kovalchuk is pretty much pushing for a trade to the Jackets or Rangers, or might stay in the KHL.

Where did you see this at?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Even if you take the reigns off of Hayes, you still need someone to center the 3rd line.

They don't have anyone ready for that yet.

would rather put Miller back there.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Either try to win.. OR... Let Zibanejad, Hayes, Skjeji, Buch, Vesey, DeAngelo loose and see what you got with them with bigger roles.

 

[NYR Viper]

Holden?

I'm assuming he's moved

 

[RGY]

I'm assuming he's moved

Hoping so

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Hoping so

away from Staal at least.. lol

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

would rather put Miller back there.

Why?

Hes never once shown that he can handle that role at the NHL level and has been much better at wing.

 

[RGY]

away from Staal at least.. lol

Away from this organization

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Away from this organization

He was actually ok away from Staal and he's dirt cheap.. but yeah I would trade him too and let a kid play.

 

[Irishguy42]

Where did you see this at?

I saw the same rumor. Not from anyone credible though.