Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXIX

[Matt Rentfree]

Look I understand the financial fears about Kreider. However I still feel he would take a little less to stay. Also the return we get for him is probably not gonna be worth losing a player of his unique skill set. I mean the Devils did a great job with Hall because they turned it into a likely lottery pick. With Kreider it seems like the Bruins and Blues are the big favorites which means the puck we get is between. 27-31 along with maybe a decent prospect/young player. That return doesn’t exactly excite me to be honest

Ultimately that's the question. Is a late 1st, a good but not great prospect and the cap space to spend on other upgrades >, =, or < Kreider at 7/7?

 

[NYR Viper]

Does the Skinner contract effect things for Kreider? I would assume so, though Skinner is 2 years younger.

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[Thirty One]

Isn't there that weird cap thing with Weber where Nashville could owe $20 million in a season somehow?

Yeah, if he retires with one year left on his contract.

The foot thing likely has them hoping he finishes the contract on LTIR.

 

[offdacrossbar]

7 mil for 7 years with a NTC is a hard no for me.

 

[LORDE]

Guys we're drifting right back into putting out the deals we want.

The deal on the table is 7x7, not 7x5 or 7x6.

It's 7x7 with a NMC. We're using what is widely seen as the market price for this question. Yes or no.

No... I would def NOT

 

[Tawnos]

7x7 is kind of a strange thing to be discussing. If the Rangers are signing Kreider to a truly long-term deal, it’ll be 8 years.

 

[Edge]

I feel like at this point everyone has pretty much said what they'd be comfortable at with Kreider and what they wouldn't

I'm confident they have, I just don't have time to enter them all into a spreadsheet.

 

[Edge]

7x7 is kind of a strange thing to be discussing. If the Rangers are signing Kreider to a truly long-term deal, it’ll be 8 years.

{Facepalm}

I feel like this is the Kitty Hawk/Wright Brothers Example I posted a while back.

LOL

 

[GAGLine]

7x7 is kind of a strange thing to be discussing. If the Rangers are signing Kreider to a truly long-term deal, it’ll be 8 years.

7 x 7 is based on what he would likely get as a UFA, by a team other than the Rangers.

 

[BBKers]

Isn't there that weird cap thing with Weber where Nashville could owe $20 million in a season somehow?

This is not going to happen due to LTIR, but it would be brutal for Nashville if it did.

 

[Tawnos]

7 x 7 is based on what he would likely get as a UFA, by a team other than the Rangers.

thanks for that, but it’s still a strange thing to be discussing in this context.

 

[charliemurphy]

Talk about beating a dead horse... makes me anxious for this trade to finally go down.

 

[Edge]

thanks for that, but it’s still a strange thing to be discussing in this context.

Don't overthink this Tawnos. It's not meant to be that deep of a dive.

 

[Lone Ranger]

I'd happily give Kreider 7 million for 6 years. I look at it as a slightly more than two million dollar raise from what we're already paying him. A raise I believe he's more than earned. The term worries me far more than the salary; eliminating that prospective seventh year is worth going to the higher annual salary IMHO.

 

[Tawnos]

Don't overthink this Tawnos. It's not meant to be that deep of a dive.

It’s meant to be a meaningless one?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

This is not going to happen due to LTIR, but it would be brutal for Nashville if it did.View attachment 319787

$25MM penalty?!

 

[Edge]

It’s meant to be a meaningless one?

It is what is it.

Kreider's camp is set at 7x7, do you sign it?

 

[RGY]

James Neal is having a hard time recovering.

So EDM is missing both McDavid and Neal right now in the midst of a tight playoff race that will be going down to the wire.

Seems like a perfect trade partner for Buchnevich.

 

[GAGLine]

It is what is it.

Kreider's camp is set at 7x7, do you sign it?

My guess is that there are maybe 2 or 3 people on this board who would, and everyone else who will say no. If we want to include people who believe Kreider will sign at a lower price point, then the numbers will be more balanced, I'd wager.

The interesting thing for me is, what will be the reaction if we do end up re-signing him?

 

[duhmetreE]

Am I crazy? This team is taking shape.

We finally have a overflow of top6 talent. We have arguably the 'best/most promising' Right Side on defense. We have a legitimate heir to HL.

Our bottom6 can use some stabilization along with our LHD. Barron is a nice piece that would be added soon. Hopefully Howden can develop into a key cog in this area.

Forget Rykov, Lindgren and Hajek.. We still are waiting on Miller, Robertson and Jones.... I personally think Robertson will be a massive piece to the puzzle.

 

[Lone Ranger]

Damnit, I bought a car and everything already

Just switch to basketball. Dolan will pay you that to be the twelfth man on the Knicks no sweat.

 

[Edge]

My guess is that there are maybe 2 or 3 people on this board who would, and everyone else who will say no. If we want to include people who believe Kreider will sign at a lower price point, then the numbers will be more balanced, I'd wager.

The interesting thing for me is, what will be the reaction if we do end up re-signing him?

My guess is the number may have gone up.

I think there's more people now willing to go to 7x7 then maybe 6 months ago, or even 2 months ago.

It's not a scientific poll by any stretch, I'm more curious to see how people respond to a very specific, and circulated number.

 

[Mac n Gs]

It is what is it.

Kreider's camp is set at 7x7, do you sign it?

It's an easy no. That $7M can be allocated for RFA extensions or to take on a different player that's currently under contract (Clayton Keller?).

The NMC down the stretch is what will be a killer, and it would only be worsened by the contract being signing-bonus heavy. I like Kreids a lot, but that contract just simply will not age well.

 

[wafflepadsave]

Just because that's the asking price doesn't mean that's the contract he's going to get. I'm guessing Kreider minimum is going to be close to the 6.5x6 range.

Yes, once again, if no one offers him a contract he’s looking for, he can certainly circle back to the Rangers.

 

[wafflepadsave]

It's an easy no. That $7M can be allocated for RFA extensions or to take on a different player that's currently under contract (Clayton Keller?).

The NMC down the stretch is what will be a killer, and it would only be worsened by the contract being signing-bonus heavy. I like Kreids a lot, but that contract just simply will not age well.

And I will root for him to do well with his new team!