Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XV

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Schneider is almost as untouchable as Laf of Fox. Not going anywhere.

That cannot possibly be true.

This is a guy drafted 19th overall who, if we recall, was not really universally considered great value at 19.

Yes he has some very appealing traits and may not be far from NHL ready but he’s not even a Lundkvist level talent, so he’s definitely not Fox or Laf tier.

If the Rangers are considering him that untouchable simply because he’s big and tough that’s just more insanity in this quest for tuffness.
 
Soucy makes a lot more realistic sense if you are looking for a partner for nils Lundkvist and fully expect Miller to be better playing another season with trouba

the Eichel move is a disaster losing Chytil our only young center makes it even worse

no one is winning anything with 3 10 mil forwards and that’s what you’ll have keeping Mika. Not to mention Mika and Eichel play in the same spots you’ll lose numbers from one of them. Two righty first line elite centers. We only need one
 
Hyman is getting $40M. Toronto and Edmonton could make a sign and trade for Hyman. He gets an 8 year contract. If Hyman signs as a free agent, he is getting 7 years. Both are max terms. Hyman is getting $40M.

I remember watching Hyman at Michigan. Never thought he would be a $40M player.
You happen to know how much Hyman is getting?
 
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It would be hilarious if one of Seattle deals is Giordano to the Rangers and Carp has to double back again with some bs I told you so lol.

Honestly, I think it’s a lot harder to divulge any leaked info from the Rangers these days. It was always tight with Gorts now it seems locked down even more with Drury.

Ive never been a huge fan of Carps but I do enjoy his column in the Athletic even though it’s just rephrased stuff we already know, but hell we didn’t even hear a peep from Brooksie throughout all of this and he normally breaks news first.

Carp took a shot but that was an epic fail lol
 
Friedman also updated his comment from 48 hours ago about teams being out on JE.

“I was told today that some of those teams are back in”. Those teams being LA, Ducks, Flames.
 
It would be hilarious if one of Seattle deals is Giordano to the Rangers and Carp has to double back again with some bs I told you so lol.

Honestly, I think it’s a lot harder to divulge any leaked info from the Rangers these days. It was always tight with Gorts now it seems locked down even more with Drury.

Ive never been a huge fan of Carps but I do enjoy his column in the Athletic even though it’s just rephrased stuff we already know, but hell we didn’t even hear a peep from Brooksie throughout all of this and he normally breaks news first.

Carp took a shot but that was an epic fail lol
I would rather crickets than taking a blind shot for attention.

The thing is the Rangers have indeed been very tight lipped over recent years. When trades have happened, I cannot recall a guy like Carp or Brooks having laid it out already in the days and hours leading up to it being official. They are always just as surprised as we are. They had no f***ing clue about the Howden deal or the Goodrow trade. Zero idea. But now all the sudden Carp received a tip from his “connection” the day of the expansion draft? Cmon man. Stop with that. Just continue writing your very bland and regurgitated articles covering the team. Its fine, just do that.
 
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Soucy makes a lot more realistic sense if you are looking for a partner for nils Lundkvist and fully expect Miller to be better playing another season with trouba

the Eichel move is a disaster losing Chytil our only young center makes it even worse

no one is winning anything with 3 10 mil forwards and that’s what you’ll have keeping Mika. Not to mention Mika and Eichel play in the same spots you’ll lose numbers from one of them. Two righty first line elite centers. We only need one
The only way it makes sense is if they’re confident in Eichel’s medical records to project him to return to his pre-injury play. That’s the type of C you can replace Mika with long-term, but I genuinely don’t understand how they’re planning to keep both beyond this year without being cheap with our younger players. Those younger guys need to be signed to long-term deals out of their ELCs to keep their cap hits down
 
The only way it makes sense is if they’re confident in Eichel’s medical records to project him to return to his pre-injury play. That’s the type of C you can replace Mika with long-term, but I genuinely don’t understand how they’re planning to keep both beyond this year without being cheap with our younger players. Those younger guys need to be signed to long-term deals out of their ELCs to keep their cap hits down

If our doctors (who I do trust over any in the world) feel he’s healthy and the plan is (which I disagree with) to replace Mika with Eichel long term, THEN I at least can understand the thought process of trading for him. However if that includes moving Chytil? We’re down to one center. We have nothing in our system to replace him.
 
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Soucy makes a lot more realistic sense if you are looking for a partner for nils Lundkvist and fully expect Miller to be better playing another season with trouba

the Eichel move is a disaster losing Chytil our only young center makes it even worse

no one is winning anything with 3 10 mil forwards and that’s what you’ll have keeping Mika. Not to mention Mika and Eichel play in the same spots you’ll lose numbers from one of them. Two righty first line elite centers. We only need one
That’s why if Eichel comes, I expect him to be a Mika replacement more them a1-2 punch. They’ll try it while Zibbys only making 5.3 mill, but he’ll either get shipped out by deadline and waive his clause, or self rented depending on chemistry of the team and where the rangers are in the standings. I’d expect a rangers 2C to be a Dvorak, Cirelli, Larkin, Lindholm etc type guy. They trade extends the rangers quest of making a move for their long term 2C option, and it gives Eichel a crutch by having Zibby here a full year while he gets back to 100%.
That way he doesn’t carry too much of the load too fast after returning for rehab/surgery. It also gives the rangers Zibbys long term replacement for the next half decade. And make no mistakes, a healthy Eichel is better then a healthy zibby. Don’t really wanna debate point by point but it’s true despite all the nay sayers.
GMS usually tend to think in the now to the next 3 years. Not 5 years down the road. If Drury makes this move, I’m assuming he’s got a serious picture about the guys he wants and sees as his core top 6 and top 4 D going fwd. they are your big money high minute players.
The rest can be filled in relatively cheaply internally, the UFA market, and non-high profile trades.
It’s a big reason why I think Nils isn’t long for this rangers team. This year it’s fine because it’s his first year, but ultimately his talents are squandered on 3rd pair no 1st PP time. He’s going to need serious minutes that Fox is going to take the brunt of
 
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So, if I'm reading these tweets correctly, what I think they're trying to get across is that Seattle didn't make a single deal "not to select a certain player." They do, however, have several deals in place to flip players that they did select.

If so, that's truly mystifying. They passed over some players that could really help them to select absolute non-prospects.
 
Friedman also updated his comment from 48 hours ago about teams being out on JE.

“I was told today that some of those teams are back in”. Those teams being LA, Ducks, Flames.

Personally, I hope - I do not think Eichel is the right move for this team. He makes sense but for the reasons stated, I'd prefer a different route.

By the way rangers1314 - Patrice O'Neal in your avatar - I still listen to his old stuff on YouTube! Love that guy.
 
So, if I'm reading these tweets correctly, what I think they're trying to get across is that Seattle didn't make a single deal "not to select a certain player." They do, however, have several deals in place to flip players that they did select.

If so, that's truly mystifying. They passed over some players that could really help them to select absolute non-prospects.
That’s my read as well. Several truly absurd picks if there isn’t any additional incentive associated with them.
 
I won't say Seattle will be bad because I thought Vegas was going to be absolute trash. What do I know? I just can't figure out how Francis didn't extract a little payment for making sweetheart picks. Lou wanted to keep Bailey and hoped Eberle was the pick for cap reasons. Exploit that and get a small return. Geekie over Bean or El Nino, fine but bluff Carolina a little and ask for a mid round pick. Montreal was going deep state and manipulating the process. Bergevin can't lose Price after the run, going into his own contract year. Ask for a 1st (30 OA).

Francis dishing out assists to Yzerman, Sakic and Bergevin deep into retirement trying to catch Gretzky.
 
If our doctors (who I do trust over any in the world) feel he’s healthy and the plan is (which I disagree with) to replace Mika with Eichel long term, THEN I at least can understand the thought process of trading for him. However if that includes moving Chytil? We’re down to one center. We have nothing in our system to replace him.
Preaching to the choir here since I think trading Chytil is a terrible idea. We always wonder how teams develop this young players that become top liners out of nowhere, yet we have one on our team and so many want to get rid of him.

All of his numbers suggest he’s a prime breakout candidate this season with a better role. As for a replacement, maybe they can lure Stastny as a cheap one year placeholder at 3C that can play up if needed. That’s what I wanted to do this offseason anyways.
 
Really against Eichel, but if Drury can somehow make the trade on Saturday and make it a 2022 pick after we get Svechkov or a Center, how would you guys feel?
 
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I just have a feeling that if things are going well next season, they buy at the deadline and there goes the 2022 #1. Then your looking at 2 straight drafts without a #1.

Still would prefer to see a Larkin deal.

Get the Larkin deal done and set your price on Buch to address the areas you've had to to deal from to get Larkin.
 
That cannot possibly be true.

This is a guy drafted 19th overall who, if we recall, was not really universally considered great value at 19.

Yes he has some very appealing traits and may not be far from NHL ready but he’s not even a Lundkvist level talent, so he’s definitely not Fox or Laf tier.

If the Rangers are considering him that untouchable simply because he’s big and tough that’s just more insanity in this quest for tuffness.

You are thinking about someone else as the Rangers traded up to select him.

He provides the whole package. While not on Nils level offensively (still TBD really) he's as good or better defensively and has the size and physicality that Nils lacks.

And if you are putting Nils at the Fox/LaF level, then it is you that is overrating Nils....by quite a bit.
 
Seattle has Giordano, Oleksiak, MacDermid, Soucy and Lauzon (among others) at LD.

One of MacDermid and Soucy is getting traded. I like Kurtis MacDermid. Has he been trash in the past? I think that is irrelevant to be honest. A player like him has all the potential in the world to improve starting so far behind in many areas. MacDermid don’t have to play every night. We got Jones and Robertson at LD who could be ready for a look next season. Jones is already there. MacDermid by all accounts is a perfect teammate. His dad, Paul MacDermid, was as tough as they got.

I just like that mix better. KM playing like half the games, Jones filling in. KM can play LW too on the 4th line.
 
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I would call old Ronnie up after what he pulled last night and offer Strome and 15 for the number 2 pick. He seems to want to help other teams.
 
That cannot possibly be true.

This is a guy drafted 19th overall who, if we recall, was not really universally considered great value at 19.

Yes he has some very appealing traits and may not be far from NHL ready but he’s not even a Lundkvist level talent, so he’s definitely not Fox or Laf tier.

If the Rangers are considering him that untouchable simply because he’s big and tough that’s just more insanity in this quest for tuffness.

Not true.

Thats in the range of where he was ranked by all the reputable services. Bob McKenzie's list had him at 17.
 
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