Speculation: Roster Building LX: The Return of Cap(tain) Crunch aka LB Bus Stop Theme

[bobbop]

I would take a Names and Smith buyout over a Shattenkirk and Smith buyout. The latter option cripples the Rangers with $10M+ in dead space next year (with Girardi & Spooner).

A Names and Smith buyout gets you a $1.3M & $3.3M hit next year, plus Girardi's $1.1 & Spooner's $300K. Which equals $6M in dead space.

A Shattenkirk and Smith buyout gets you a $6M & $3.3M hit next year, plus Girardi's $1.1 & Spooner's $300K. Which equals $10.7M in dead space.

A Shattenkirk buyout also gives you a couple of million to add around the edges.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Once they start praising you--that's the kiss of death then?

I wish, because Staal would have been done here a while ago.

But organizations usually don't bash their own guys. Sometimes guys will do it (Torts) but we rarely know what the FO types really think about certain players.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

SMith will be the buy out

We’ll sign LEM at 1, ADA at 1.5

We’ll pay to move Names

Buch signed at 3.25

We’ll have 1.5-2 mil cap space

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Buch has already stated that he only wants to sign a 2 year deal and will get 3m aav.

Krieder will be traded bc his next contract will be outrageous.

Names or strome will be gone also.

Lem and ada will get 1-2 year deals for around 2m aav each.

If we wait on krieder to be traded at the deadline which gorton has already stated he doesnt want to do, we still need to free up space.. shatty I believe will have trade value at the deadline so it will be Smith or Staal being bought out. My money is on Smith. Staal can still rotate in and reach the young players. We are not a playoff team... YET

 

[Mac n Gs]

Buch has already stated that he only wants to sign a 2 year deal and will get 3m aav.

Krieder will be traded bc his next contract will be outrageous.

Names or strome will be gone also.

Lem and ada will get 1-2 year deals for around 2m aav each.

If we wait on krieder to be traded at the deadline which gorton has already stated he doesnt want to do, we still need to free up space.. shatty I believe will have trade value at the deadline so it will be Smith or Staal being bought out. My money is on Smith. Staal can still rotate in and reach the young players. We are not a playoff team... YET

Where did Buch say that?

 

[Irishguy42]

Buch has already stated that he only wants to sign a 2 year deal and will get 3m aav.

Krieder will be traded bc his next contract will be outrageous.

Names or strome will be gone also.

Lem and ada will get 1-2 year deals for around 2m aav each.

If we wait on krieder to be traded at the deadline which gorton has already stated he doesnt want to do, we still need to free up space.. shatty I believe will have trade value at the deadline so it will be Smith or Staal being bought out. My money is on Smith. Staal can still rotate in and reach the young players. We are not a playoff team... YET

Is this recent? Cause I have not seen anything saying he wants that.

Seems like a pretty big talking point that would be discussed here. And yet...it hasn't.

Source?

 

[Kovalev27]

Never has Buchy ever said anything of any substance to anyone let alone come out and tell anyone he only wants a 2 year contract

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don't think buchnevich said it directly but I remember reading something along those lines too.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It has been mentioned by several people. I think Carp was one of them

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Sundqvist just resigned with the Blues 4 years $2.75MM. 25 years old only had one decent season (last season). Hes also a center and it buys out a couple UFA years.

With all these contracts being signed by somewhat comparable players (Kapanen/Johnsson) I cant see Buch getting much above $3MM on a shorter term deal.

 

[charliemurphy]

It has been mentioned by several people. I think Carp was one of them

Mentioning it and coming from his mouth or his agents mouth is a different story. Lots of folks mention things around here, lol.

 

[NYR Viper]

Hopefully some of these RFA signings will get things moving again

 

[Avery16]

Is there a link to this article? Sounds like an interesting read.

Thought it was posted earlier:

https://nypost.com/2019/07/20/ex-rangers-exec-gives-inside-take-on-nhl-offersheet-drama/

 

[Avery16]

Sundqvist just resigned with the Blues 4 years $2.75MM. 25 years old only had one decent season (last season). Hes also a center and it buys out a couple UFA years.

With all these contracts being signed by somewhat comparable players (Kapanen/Johnsson) I cant see Buch getting much above $3MM on a shorter term deal.

Good number and term for Sundqvist, who had a good year transitioning from 4th line to middle -six minutes.

 

[NYR Viper]

Pionk signs in Winnipeg, 2 years at $3m per season

 

[NYR Viper]

Probably a similar deal to what ADA will want

 

[RangerBoy]

$5M in additional cap space for Trouba.

Winnipeg gave Pionk a really good bridge deal. A little too much.

 

[RangerBoy]

Probably a similar deal to what ADA will want

ADA has no leverage.

Pionk had an arbitration hearing next week.

 

[NYR Viper]

$5M in additional cap space for Trouba.

Winnipeg gave Pionk a really good bridge deal. A little too much.

Agreed that seems like a lot

 

[NYR Viper]

ADA has no leverage.

Pionk had an arbitration hearing next week.

Want and get are two different things of course. But if I’m his agent I point to Pionk’s deal as reasoning why I’m not taking $1m

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Probably a similar deal to what ADA will want

ADA isn't arb eligible though. It changes a lot

 

[NYR Viper]

ADA isn't arb eligible though. It changes a lot

Of course, but he’s not signing for $1m when comparable players are making $3m. He should get less, but not $2m less. Just my opinion

 

[I Eat Crow]

Pionk signs in Winnipeg, 2 years at $3m per season

Holy f***.

This makes Trouba's contract look even better.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Of course, but he’s not signing for $1m when comparable players are making $3m. He should get less, but not $2m less. Just my opinion

But realistically, what choice does he have? Kevin Labanc is also worth more than 1m, but sometimes players make due with what they get.

For DeAngelo it would be an interesting option. Sign a 1-year deal for 1m, and gain arbitration eligibility next year to get your big payday

 

[NYR Viper]

But realistically, what choice does he have? Kevin Labanc is also worth more than 1m, but sometimes players make due with what they get.

For DeAngelo it would be an interesting option. Sign a 1-year deal for 1m, and gain arbitration eligibility next year to get your big payday

Just from my perspective, I’d take the 1 year deal for $1.5m-1.75m or 2 year $3m per season deal. Those would be what I would propose to the Rangers.