The Iceman
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Recalled/Assigned: Robertson recalled
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ULF_55
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That's interesting isn't it?
However, not to be negative, but what else to Robertson bring to the table besides points?
Most giveaways per 60 on the team.
4th. for blocks per 60.
Perhaps the problem is the Leafs don't really have a 3rd. line that produces?
Robertson/Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Maybe it's just one year too soon for Robertson. This year he plays / rotates with others and next year he steps into a top 6 role?
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Holmberg should be in Kämpfs place.
Robertson is the kind of depth we need in our bottom 6 to not overly rely on the top 6.
That 1 shot will be pay dividends if he plays regularly and finds his grove and not to mention the intensity he plays with.
Majority of cup winners have a decent amount of their own draft picks on their team. It’s a formula of how you win a cup. Leafs need to develop players like Robertson they spent all these years developing him he’s got good production for the minutes he plays.
Ha, I've seized by the same general though and shoe horning it into different threads.
We have a 22m C-RW pair, an 18m C-RW pair. A 5.1m C-RW pair, and a 4m 4thline.
The 22m pair makes do an ELC. So to should the 18. Leaves the 5.5m LW drop down to give us a 10.6m 3rd line that should be able to play havoc with the opposing shoft matchups.
How long has it been since we had a dedicated line combos thread?
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Robertson is a puck hound and has the type of energy that is great for the third line. Him and Domi seem to have good chemistry too, so I find it odd to disrupt that to put Holmberg in who is pretty much a defensive specialist at this point. If they really wanted to develop Holmberg, they should've let Kampf walk and let Pontus take on his role instead.
The Iceman
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EXCEPT
If you can play your top line 22 minutes
second line 20 minutes
that leaves 18 minutes to cover off if my math is correct For the bottom two lines.
In this case it makes sense to stack the lines.
In the playoffs maybe you try to get three lines that can play when the play is heavier.
Buds17
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Can he be a serious option for next season's top six though when he's being made a healthy scratch at times during the current season? I will state that I sometimes feel Robertson not being in the lineup more often is more about the coach than it is the player.
Not accounting for special teams.
Right now even strength
Matthews -17min
Tavares- 15min
Domi-11.5min
Kampf-10.75 min
The Kampf line is 4million dollars of "go out there and don't get scored on," Does that need almost as many minutes as a 10.6m hypothetical Bert-Domi-Jarncrok line?
Practice like you play, it's not an option for the playoffs if we don't know if we have a viable internal option for 2LW
ULF_55
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Robertson is not a proven NHL player.
He is in the process of proving he is a NHL player.
He's played 59 NHL games, that isn't a proven NHL player.
It appears he can be, he just has a horrible history of proving he can actually play a full season anywhere.
Coach ... who knows?
ULF_55
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There are 60 or 65 minutes in a game, doesn't change with penalties.
Matthews - 22 minutes can include PK/PP.
Yes- but those are specialized units, largely separate from the allocation to EV lines
Buds17
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This is the point I was trying to make. Robertson would first have to establish himself as an every game player before being considered for such a major role as playing in the top six, no? Missing games due to being a healthy scratch isn't the same as missing games due to injury (though both can be equally problematic).
ULF_55
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I think there are too many players when you dress 4 lines.
Almost seems there are sympathy minutes given out to players on the 4th. line at times.
I was high on Roberston for a long time. He had bad luck in his Leaf progression and now I hope he's part of a trade with him being thown in and not the major piece of the deal. Thanks for everything Nick. I think you'll be gone by the deadline.
Once Reaves gets activated one of Roberson, Mcmann, Timmons , holmberg or Lagesson will need to be sent to Marlies
Stephen
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Timmins seems like the guy who failed all the tests and should be the one sent packing. Or just waive Reaves himself/send him on a conditioning stint.
They are at the point now that they need to decide on what to do with him.
The question is whether he is an NHL player, and then decide whether he should be an NHL player with the Leafs or elsewhere.
If Minten is vying for a spot next year and Kampf is still here... theren there limited options down the middle. And the wing positions will get crowded soon based on what is in the pipeline.
So he probably ends up trade fodder unless they somehow create an opening for him at C by moving Kampf. But at this point, he really has shown to be a viable C.
At this point, not waiving Reaves is idiotic. He has done nothing to warrant being on the roster and I would deal him if that was even possible.
Letting Timmins go to keep Reaves is so the wrong move.
I am not down on Timmins and have him in the same boat as Robertson.
They both have potential, but doubt Keefe for them to have an opportunity to realize it here.
ULF_55
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Robertson has been on the radar too long.
Not his fault, just the hype was way over the top and so not everyone wants to give him a normal development path.
IMO, some today believe he's earned a full time job and others believe he's run out of time.
At this point, he's nothing special. He doesn't move the needle at all.
He's just a 22 year old trying become a NHL player like most other 22 year olds trying to become a NHL player.
Not his fault, just the hype was way over the top and so not everyone wants to give him a normal development path.
IMO, some today believe he's earned a full time job and others believe he's run out of time.
At this point, he's nothing special. He doesn't move the needle at all.
He's just a 22 year old trying become a NHL player like most other 22 year olds trying to become a NHL player.
