Confirmed with Link: RIP Johnny & Matthew Gaudreau

[Rubi]

No it's not "interesting". It's one of the shittiest days that family will ever experience and it's been turned into a f***ing spectacle. We don't need to know who is grieving and how badly.

Do you ever have a day where you're not nasty to someone? I swear, I don't know anyone who is offended as much as you. Give us all a break and go outside and take your shoes and socks off to feel grass between your toes.. and relax. Or just stop posting for a while.

 

[Lunatik]

Do you ever have a day where you're not nasty to someone? I swear, I don't know anyone who is offended as much as you. Give us all a break and go outside and take your shoes and socks off to feel grass between your toes.. and relax. Or just stop posting for a while.

Literally nothing I said was nasty to anyone.

 

[JPeeper]

It would be interesting to know which NHL players and associates were at the funeral. Was Gio there? Bennett? Tkachuk? Conroy? Sutter? Lindholm?

Based off the parts I watched of the service, Chucky was there and I believe Zadorov was in the same pew as well (it was the back/side of his head, but I'm 99% sure it was him), Ryan Leslie was there sitting next to Tre, Conroy was there.

Monahan was one of the Pallbearers along with Kevin Hayes, those were the two I recognized when they were walking the coffin out. Monahan looked absolutely devastated walking out.

I skipped through parts so there could be guys I missed.

 

[Kranix]

No it's not "interesting". It's one of the shittiest days that family will ever experience and it's been turned into a f***ing spectacle. We don't need to know who is grieving and how badly.

The family put a f***ing camera in the church and broadcast it on the internet. Relax

 

[Lunatik]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1833319086542987719

 

[hangman005]

Guys lets not turn this thread into this.

 

[Youngguns1380]

I would like to say the class the Calgary fans & Team has shown for Johnny Guadreau has been nothing short of total respect from me.

I never followed another team than the CBJ since they came into the league, but Calgary is my Team in West and obviously still following the CBJ as my favorite.

 

[red devil]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834686352757043435

 

[BRobMint]

I just got tickets for the Flames/Blue Jackets game in Columbus in November. Gonna be very emotional, but I want to be there for it

I would like to say the class the Calgary fans & Team has shown for Johnny Guadreau has been nothing short of total respect from me.

I never followed another team than the CBJ since they came into the league, but Calgary is my Team in West and obviously still following the CBJ as my favorite.

We're all in this together man. Johnny meant a lot to both of our favorite teams. It's still hard to process that him and his brother went out the way they did

 

[Youngguns1380]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834784755209879932

 

[Jihadi Flames Fan]

I'm interested to see how the Flames honor the Gaudreau brothers. For Johnny, I'd like to see the Flames honor him in 3 ways:

1. The #13 should be painted behind both nets.
2. A #13 shoulder patch should be worn on the jerseys. And,
3. When the time is right, #13 should be raised to the rafters. This can be done in either the 2024/2025 or 2025/2026 season.

As for Matty, this one's a little more difficult as he never played for the Flames, but I'd like to see the Flames wear his college number (#21) on the side of their helmets. I wouldn't be opposed to a shoulder patch and/or painting his number alongside Johnny's as well.

I still can't believe they're gone.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Gaudreau Memorial Update | Calgary Flames

Flames release details on tribute strategy for items left by fans

www.nhl.com

Signs, messages, and chalk: The site has been precisely photographed including all chalk drawings, posters, signs, personal letters, and messages. The photographs will be provided to the Gaudreau family as an everlasting digital memory book from Flames fans.

Hockey Sticks: Hockey stick benches will be created that will be used in fundraising efforts for local charities. Plaques identifying the benches’ origins will include "In memory of Johnny & Matthew Gaudreau".

Skittles: The edible items that are no longer fit for human consumption will be counted and the Calgary Flames Foundation will make a commensurate financial contribution to the Calgary Food Bank.

Purple Sports Drinks: The plastic beverage containers will be emptied and donated to the KidSport Calgary recycling program. The program turns empties into sport opportunities for local kids in need, the access to sports.

Stuffed Toys: Toys made of cloth and cotton such as Teddy Bears will be donated to Parachutes for Pets, a charity supported by Mikael Backlund and Mackenzie Weegar. These will be used for the Lily and Dexter’ Legacy program - a groundbreaking program ensuring children in care can stay with their pets by providing essential support such as leashes, collars, vet care, vaccines, and licensing, created by the Backlund family.

Jerseys: The jerseys will be laundered and used to design blankets that will be donated to local charitable organizations.

Flowers: All organics will be collected and sent to compost. Soil from the flowers will be deposited in the earth at community park(s) around the city.

Miscellaneous Items: The remaining items will be reviewed following the completion of sorting.

 

[Anglesmith]

I'm interested to see how the Flames honor the Gaudreau brothers. For Johnny, I'd like to see the Flames honor him in 3 ways:

1. The #13 should be painted behind both nets.
2. A #13 shoulder patch should be worn on the jerseys. And,
3. When the time is right, #13 should be raised to the rafters. This can be done in either the 2024/2025 or 2025/2026 season.

As for Matty, this one's a little more difficult as he never played for the Flames, but I'd like to see the Flames wear his college number (#21) on the side of their helmets. I wouldn't be opposed to a shoulder patch and/or painting his number alongside Johnny's as well.

I still can't believe they're gone.

I agree with 1 and 2 and I think that's very likely what we'll see, but I don't think Gaudreau will/should have his jersey retired here.

I say that because I don't believe he would've been a candidate for jersey retirement had he not died. The jersey retirement is meant to be an honour for what players did during their careers in Calgary, and his death does not change that.

If he was still playing for Calgary at the time, I think there would be a strong argument to project what would've been during the rest of his career, but as things stand I don't think his time in Calgary was enough to achieve jersey retirement. If it was, MacInnis' #2 would be retired.

We'll see what they do. Forever a Flame would be a good and appropriate option.

 

[Mobiandi]

No one will wear #13 ever again even if they don’t retire it. So they should do the right thing and make it official

 

[Figgy44]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834784755209879932

Makes you want to give Guy and Jane a hug. Absolutely heartbreaking.

I'm interested to see how the Flames honor the Gaudreau brothers. For Johnny, I'd like to see the Flames honor him in 3 ways:

1. The #13 should be painted behind both nets.
2. A #13 shoulder patch should be worn on the jerseys. And,
3. When the time is right, #13 should be raised to the rafters. This can be done in either the 2024/2025 or 2025/2026 season.

As for Matty, this one's a little more difficult as he never played for the Flames, but I'd like to see the Flames wear his college number (#21) on the side of their helmets. I wouldn't be opposed to a shoulder patch and/or painting his number alongside Johnny's as well.

I still can't believe they're gone.

Matthew did play a few games for the Stockton heat. A #21 tribute by the Wranglers is probably not out of the question though.

 

[DFF]

I agree with 1 and 2 and I think that's very likely what we'll see, but I don't think Gaudreau will/should have his jersey retired here.

I say that because I don't believe he would've been a candidate for jersey retirement had he not died. The jersey retirement is meant to be an honour for what players did during their careers in Calgary, and his death does not change that.

If he was still playing for Calgary at the time, I think there would be a strong argument to project what would've been during the rest of his career, but as things stand I don't think his time in Calgary was enough to achieve jersey retirement. If it was, MacInnis' #2 would be retired.

We'll see what they do. Forever a Flame would be a good and appropriate option.

His death definitely changed it for me. It put him in a different category.

 

[hangman005]

Tragedy does change the metric of things, there is a reason 58 has been retired in Vegas.

 

[Kranix]

I agree with 1 and 2 and I think that's very likely what we'll see, but I don't think Gaudreau will/should have his jersey retired here.

I say that because I don't believe he would've been a candidate for jersey retirement had he not died. The jersey retirement is meant to be an honour for what players did during their careers in Calgary, and his death does not change that.

If he was still playing for Calgary at the time, I think there would be a strong argument to project what would've been during the rest of his career, but as things stand I don't think his time in Calgary was enough to achieve jersey retirement. If it was, MacInnis' #2 would be retired.

We'll see what they do. Forever a Flame would be a good and appropriate option.

there's league precedent for officially retiring numbers without legendary careers, but it seems to be case by case. The Flyers retired Barry Ashbee but not Pelle Lindbergh.

 

[Anglesmith]

there's league precedent for officially retiring numbers without legendary careers, but it seems to be case by case. The Flyers retired Barry Ashbee but not Pelle Lindbergh.

One thing I brought up was that if Gaudreau was still a Flames player, I think retirement would be a slam dunk because it's appropriate to prorate his impact on the organization. These two examples are guys whose career ended while on the Flyers.

As it stands, the book was already closed on Gaudreau's Flames career, and that stint wasn't impactful enough to warrant jersey retirement due to its brevity. His death did not affect his impact on the Flames. Ultimately I think there are a great deal of ways to honour Gaudreau that don't dilute an honour that already has its own purpose.

 

[Lunatik]

As it stands, the book was already closed on Gaudreau's Flames career, and that stint wasn't impactful enough to warrant jersey retirement due to its brevity. His death did not affect his impact on the Flames. Ultimately I think there are a great deal of ways to honour Gaudreau that don't dilute an honour that already has its own purpose.

I disagree. Gaudreau did more as a Flame on the ice than Lanny did

 

[Anglesmith]

I disagree. Gaudreau did more as a Flame on the ice than Lanny did

Do you reckon? I don't see Gaudreau being a community fixture and icon into his senior years the way Lanny is. I feel like his legacy in Calgary would have faded by the time he retired, and I don't imagine he'd be back in town much at all. Obviously that's speculation.

Lanny has aspects to his legacy that Gaudreau would never have: the Flames being basically new to Calgary, and captaining the team to a Stanley Cup, which obviously trumps everything else and is the main reason they retired his jersey. I think with all that considered I don't know where Gaudreau would have a leg up in terms of impact. Gaudreau had a higher high individually, but we're really talking about one season that resulted in one playoff series win.

 

[Lunatik]

Do you reckon? I don't see Gaudreau being a community fixture and icon into his senior years the way Lanny is. I feel like his legacy in Calgary would have faded by the time he retired, and I don't imagine he'd be back in town much at all. Obviously that's speculation.

Lanny has aspects to his legacy that Gaudreau would never have: the Flames being basically new to Calgary, and captaining the team to a Stanley Cup, which obviously trumps everything else and is the main reason they retired his jersey. I think with all that considered I don't know where Gaudreau would have a leg up in terms of impact. Gaudreau had a higher high individually, but we're really talking about one season that resulted in one playoff series win.

I think Lanny deserves to be there for all the reasons you gave.

Also that Captaining the Cup argument is kind of bunk, he was co-captain.... I don't see anyone trying to get Pepper's digits retired (Although I think he deserves forever a Flame).

Gaudreau is the second best forward in franchise history. He's right there with Nieuwendyk and FLeury for points per game despite playing in a much lower scoring era.

And while he wasn't as visible in public as Lanny, it's been mentioned regularly that when there were community events, he'd always be one of the first to volunteer. He was a face of this franchise during his time here, he just didn't love the spotlight.

Gaudreau is a guy who liked to avoid the spotlight like Kipper, did community work like Backlund, was an elite offensive player like Fleury and had the character of Lanny and Iggy.

Based on strictly on-ice contributions, Johnny deserves this every bit as much as Kipper did.

 

[Anglesmith]

I think Lanny deserves to be there for all the reasons you gave.

Also that Captaining the Cup argument is kind of bunk, he was co-captain.... I don't see anyone trying to get Pepper's digits retired (Although I think he deserves forever a Flame).

Gaudreau is the second best forward in franchise history. He's right there with Nieuwendyk and FLeury for points per game despite playing in a much lower scoring era.

And while he wasn't as visible in public as Lanny, it's been mentioned regularly that when there were community events, he'd always be one of the first to volunteer. He was a face of this franchise during his time here, he just didn't love the spotlight.

Gaudreau is a guy who liked to avoid the spotlight like Kipper, did community work like Backlund, was an elite offensive player like Fleury and had the character of Lanny and Iggy.

Johnny deserves this every bit as much as Kipper did.

This is a very valid argument, but I think the case for Gaudreau should be measured against MacInnis more than McDonald. McDonald's case is very different than the one you are making for Johnny, which makes comparison difficult.

MacInnis had about the same length of time in Calgary, had a higher individual high with more consistency, won a Cup (and Conn Smythe), and like Gaudreau he moved on from Calgary in his prime. If that isn't worthy of jersey retirement, I think it shows that not staying in Calgary is a big factor in the decision.

Like I've said, it'll be interesting to see what the organization does. You make a good argument.

 

[Lunatik]

This is a very valid argument, but I think the case for Gaudreau should be measured against MacInnis more than McDonald. McDonald's case is very different than the one you are making for Johnny, which makes comparison difficult.

MacInnis had about the same length of time in Calgary, had a higher individual high, won a Cup (and Conn Smythe), and like Gaudreau he moved on from Calgary in his prime. If that isn't worthy of jersey retirement, I think it shows that not staying in Calgary is a big factor in the decision.

Like I've said, it'll be interesting to see what the organization does. You make a good argument.

MacInnis declined having his number retired. He didn't feel it was right since he had his number retired by the Blues and was still working for them. Him declining was the entire reason they created Forever a Flame, it was a happy medium that he would agree to.

That said, I think Fleury is the guy you compare him to... who by all accounts would have had his number retired if he wasn't a piece of trash.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

This is one of the times where if retiring a jersey number is the "technically incorrect" thing to do, it is still okay if the Flames do it.